Are parents usually okay with you taking holidays?

[treeholm]

I had my third interview today. She was lovely, but was clearly taken aback when I said I take up to 4 weeks (unpaid) holiday. I told her I close for two weeks at Christmas and she winced... she then asked if she had to pay when she goes on vacation, and I said yes, she pays to hold the spot. I thought this was probably the norm, but I'm second guessing myself. Do the rest of you take less than 4 weeks a year? Do you let parents take vacation outside those four weeks and not have to pay you?
Thanks!
Diane

[apples and bananas]

I personally take 2 unpaid per year and allow the clients to take 1 week unpaid. I close for a few days around christmas but not a full week, unless it makes sense based on the way Christmas and New Years falls.

But, I do know that there are caregivers in my area that do exactly what you do. So, I guess it depends on the client. I do less because it gives me the edge and most clients go with me first based on that.

[Play and Learn]

Written in my manual is that I can take up to 10 weeks unpaid holidays PER YEAR! But the norm is I take about 5 weeks. I tell them at the interview, 2 weeks at Christmas, a week during March Break, and the others during the summer months, a few days here and there to extend long weekends. Parents MUST pay for ALL STAT Holidays.

Parents HAVE to pay if they're taking vacation days that do not land on mine. This is to hold their spot, and so I don't advertise.

I suggest that these parents have great family support systems or they have backup care, as I do not provide it.

They don't like my rules, then they may leave.

[Momof4]

I take a week in the spring, a week in the summer and a week in the fall. Then there are usually days off around Christmas, although last year there were only two working days so I took 2 paid personal days that I have written into my contract so I had a paid week off at Christmas, but I'm not doing that this year.

My vacation weeks are unpaid and I choose my weeks for next year by the end of Nov. this year. I write a letter to all the parents so that they can arrange next year's holidays for themselves with their employers based on when I'm closed or make other arrangements.

Since I take 3 weeks off every year the parents pay 49 weeks per year full fees, no questions, no matter the reason they miss a day or week for their own vacation, sickness, whatever. I find it's working great for me and my daycare families are very happy with my system.

[treeholm]

Thanks to both of you, I feel better now. Four weeks doesn't seem outrageous now. She was also questioning paying for stat holidays, but I told her clearly they are paid. I've learned enough on this site not to feel desperate, so if she turns me down over these issues, I'm fine with it. I have another interview at 6:30 tonight, so I wanted to reassure myself LOL
Thanks!
Diane

[Inspired by Reggio]

I take the 10 stats, 10 vacation and 10 personal/emergency/sick days a year ... whether they pay or not depends on what payment option they've chosen for their contract with me because to help people 'get' that they pay for the SPACE they are occupying either way because my income is based on the 5 spaces I am legally allowed to have and it is all in how you choose to budget if you've included or not included these things upfront for the parent or 'hidden' within your fee and you put the money aside yourself for it .... so Option A you pay more for your daily fee and when I am closed for the above days you do not pay or Option B you pay a lower amount daily but you pay the same 52 weeks a year unless I take MORE time off than the scheduled closures.

Some people do not 'understand' how budgeting works for childcare ~ explaining it in the above way seems to work cause I do not have anyone who 'questions' and they either pick A or B depending on how they like to budget at home ~ if they choose A than I put the extra I have collected away into my savings account so when I am 'closed' I can access it if need be since my weekly income takes a hit than.

[Judy Trickett]

I'll admit that I am terrible for not taking enough time off. But, that being said, they are NOT your boss and you are entitled to take time off too. If I had a dcparent give me a hassle about taking time off then I would have to rethink their status here.

Most parents I know START their jobs with 2 weeks vacation a year and then as they stay at the company gain more days each year. The typical parent in my care has AT LEAST four weeks of PAID vacation a year. Many of my dcparents have far more than that.

[Momof4]

I was just thinking about my newest boy who started the first of July because I had a vacation the last week of June and didn't want him to start until then so the family made arrangements for June. Now I have a family who want to start in September (not signed on the dotted line yet) and I told them I have a week off the first of October and they looked at each other and said, so and so could help us for a week. If they want the space they will figure it out.

[Inspired by Reggio]

.... If they want the space they will figure it out.

Exactly!

Seriously if they do not have back up care and other options for times when a provider has to close than IMO choosing HOME childcare is not the best option for them ~ this is why there are big ole centres where they are open 12 hours a day and 52 weeks a year and are staffed regardless of regular providers being sick or on vacation or quitting ~ downside being as the parent you've got absolutely no control over WHO might be working with your kid from one day to the next and you often will arrive in the morning to a total stranger ~ but if you do not get any holidays, sick days or time off yourself as part of your employment than well its a con you'll have to learn to live with I guess!

[sunnydays]

I take 2 weeks paid and one week unpaid, but I am thinking about making it 2 weeks unpaid so that I have a total of 4 weeks. It depends on what is normal in your area, but you have to take care f yourself so you don't burn out. Their kids benefit from a rested and energized daycare provider more than one who never takes time off, but is completely burnt out.

[mimi]

I take two weeks in the summer and the week of Christmas/New years. I used to give my parents one weeks vacation free but then they wanted to use those days for their kids sick days so I nixed that. Most parents kind of begrudge our time off because they have to find alternate care and find it a hassle. When parents ask who is my vacation back up I just say whom ever you can find. I give at the very least 4 months notice for my time off.

[jodaycare]

I take 4 weeks per year unpaid and I have in my contract that I am entitled to 5 paid personal days per year. I get paid for all stats plus Easter Monday and Christmas Eve. If the parents take vacation time outside of mine then they pay half fees for that time and if a stat falls during my vacation or theirs then full fees are due for those days. So for Christmas this year I am off from Dec 24 till Jan 2 and I get full pay for 4 of those days.

[Littledragon]

I take two weeks PAID in the summer and one week PAID during xmas, but during xmas, with xmas day, and new years day, I usually end up only taking 4 days. So far, all the families I've taken in have christmas off anyways. And I have four paid sick days. But now that I'm reading all these answers, I'm wondering if I don't take enough haha however, mine are paid for. There's something in my manual about 4% vacation...I got it from someone else I know that puts that in their manual. I couldn't explain it though lol it seems to make everyone happy. I give 2 months notice for my two weeks during the summer so the parents can work their vacation around mine. It ends up being pretty good for me. I think there is one month the whole year where there isn't a STAT (I take all those - PAID) so each month, I get a three day weekend, and then at xmas I get a week at xmas and 2 weeks at summer. About the same as i would get at a normal job, but with this job, I'm at home to begin with, so I am on a semi-permenant vacation lol as long as the parents and kids dont stress me the F out, then I don't really feel like I'm working :)

[dodge__driver11]

I do four weeks every year.....

That said I give parents 10 weekdays per year to use at thier discretion, they may use it for thier vacation or mine, but they must pay for the remainder of my vacation when the ten days are used up (for full time attendees) and I must have one months notice for any days that they wish to use in that ten day allotment. For pt attendees I give 5 days for thier use and the same polict applies.

Haven't had a problem yet.

[Lou]

I have in my contract for 2 weeks (usually over the summer) unpaid, and Dec 24-Jan 2 unpaid. I also have "personal days as needed" which are also unpaid (which I hardly ever take!) This works for me so far!

[raincanada]

I have run a dayhome for over 30 years...yes I said 30...and I've always taken two weeks in the summer and two weeks at Christmas...Most parents are ok with it...Most of them schedule their holiday around mine in order to save money as I get unpaid holidays...

[kidlove]

No matter what diff. DayCare providers take for time off paid or unpaid, I guess its more important to pick the family thats right for you. Some parents may find it crazy for you to take so much time off and some parents may have no issue with paying you for your vacations. Either way, every ones norm is different just like every parent is different. You just have to find the right one for you.

[stitcherka]

I used to sub for a woman when she took her vacations. The parents knew that I would be there for the month of August. They preferred that to when she used to close down. She preferred it because she held onto her clients. And the children liked it because it was someone new with new ideas.

[Crayola kiddies]

Hmmmm... I take three weeks holidays plus all the stats and 5 personal days all paid.

[Mamma_Mia]

I take one week in the summer and one week for the Holidays...unpaid

Parents are allowed 10 days of half-paid vacation days, anything over the 10 days is full-day rate.