Quiet/nap time

[Shannie]

Hello, I am new here and was just wondering what other providers do during quiet/nap time. I have a 3.5 year old who doesn't nap. I have been putting on a disney movie for her during nap time and that worked well for me. I was just informed by her mom now that she wants to limit screen time and would rather her have a half hour show and then quiet activities. The problem is #1 that it takes a couple of the other kids 45 min or so to go to sleep and one won't sleep without a show. and #2 any other quiet activity I create for her doesnt last long. She plays for 10-15 min then wants something else to do. And she isn't quiet. I keep having to shush her. What do I do in this situation?

Also this mom wants more outdoor time for her kids. I would love to do more myself but most days I have 3-4 3yr olds and a 17 mo, 14mo and 12mo. I'm not sure how one person can occupy all those kids in below 0 weather when everyone freaks out either while getting dressed or withing 15 min of being out. Advise and tips would be greatly appreciated. BTW...when it is nice out we spend most of our day outdoors. :) hurry up spring!!!

[Inspired by Reggio]

My quiet time policy is that EVERYONE lays down and rests for the first 60 minutes of quiet time ... this gives all the wee ones enough time to reach a full level of sleep so if after that time they have rested and not fallen asleep than they may get up and engage in quiet activities in the livingroom ~ if however they cannot be QUIET and ENGAGED in an activity once off their bed than they have to return to their bed to stay in a state of rest because the other children NEED their naps protected and I will not have a non napping child disrupting that!

I offer the TV on an education channel or a Jolly phonics or Einstein sing along DVD and sometimes the older ones bring a 'Disney movie' from home for quiet time OR they can do table activities as they wake up ... some children when they wake up from nap are still drowsy and just want to vegge on the couch for a bit longer before getting into activities and others want to come straight to whatever invitation at the quiet table I set up ~ I let them choose.

[Crayola kiddies]

I had a former family that tried to tell me how to run my days and what they wanted their child to do or not to do and when they told me they wanted me to change my illness policy to read a certain way I told them when they opened their own daycare they found word their policy like that but mine was staying the way it was. Every child in my daycare has quiet time regardless of age. I would put this child on a cot or nap mat and tell her she is required to stay there till I come back. If she chooses not to sleep that is her perogitave but she must stay there and stay quiet. Every child needs to rest even if they don't sleep and you need a break ....I also have zero tv time in my day home so that would not be an option for any child. I would tell the parent you go outside when it is above -10 as you have some non walkers who get too cold from just sitting there. But that is your discretion not hers. I am assuming you have a routine you follow and if the parent doesn't like that routine then I am sure she will be able to fine another day home that would suit her needs better. .... NEXT....

[Inspired by Reggio]

.....and one won't sleep without a show....

To clarify are you saying the child will not fall asleep unless it is in front of the TV?

If so I would so be nipping that habit in the bud ASAP because of all the developing healthy sleep habits and research I have read that is the WORST habit to create specially in a child ~ it can create long term health problems as falling asleep to the 'moving images of a TV' can impede the healing restoration that sleep is suppose to provide for the brain :( Ideally there should be NO electronic waves in the room where you are sleeping ... even turned off your TV emits low level radiation waves that can impact REM sleep!

[Momof4]

Shannie, all of the children are expected to lay on their beds in the dark at my daycare no matter what their age. I even have my grandson on PD days and he's 5 1/2 and he lays on his bed when all the others lay down. He plays his DS for close to 45 minutes and then puts it down and sleeps for the last hour but he never has naps at school of course. If children know what you expect from them then they will co-operate with you.

You are making the rules and when you say they won't sleep without a show, I'm sorry, but it's up to you to tell them, no show! Lay them down, tell them to relax and close their eyes, make sure it is quite dark (blackout curtains are worth the money) and sit close by to moniter the situation until they learn it's your way with no other option. LUCK!

As far as going outside, we are out about every other day in the winter, sometimes only a day or two. Sometimes we are inside a lot in the summer too due to very high humidity but I try to take the children out really early and get back inside by 10-11am before the UV rays are high.

It's so much easier in the summer without all the winter gear. My contract states that parents must agree that I will use my best judgement to decide if it is safe to take their children outside if wind chill is below -10C or above 35C with humidity. I think you need to tell this dcparent that you are using YOUR best judgement and keeping the children SAFE!

[Shannie]

So, another question related to quiet time. What do you do if the parent doesn't want their child to nap? Hence all the activities I'm trying to keep her busy doing.

[Inspired by Reggio]

So, another question related to quiet time. What do you do if the parent doesn't want their child to nap? Hence all the activities I'm trying to keep her busy doing.

Quiet time is not an option here and is a child falls asleep during quiet time it is because they NEED a nap still ...plain and simple I cannot force them to stay a wake so if you don't want your kid to rest their body and nap if needed than you've outgrown my program ;)

[cfred]

I lay it out right at the intake interview....there will ALWAYS be a nap/quiet time. Even for 8 yr olds I've had in the past, there's quiet time. For the older kids, it was a movie. If kids fall asleep during the quiet time, then obviously they need the sleep. Typically, parents only want providers to eliminate/reduce naps because they're having trouble putting them down at night. IMO, that's not my issue and they will need to alter their strategies at home. I'm not adjusting an entire daycare's schedule to suit one family.

And let's face it, we work long, hard hours and have to be on our game all the time. We all need a break too :)

[Inspired by Reggio]

Exactly Cfred - and those issues at night time are rarely about having had a nap and therefore not being tired and more about sleep time resistence behaviours where a kid is stalling and forcing themselves to stay awake because they do not want to miss whatever is going on with rest of family!

That is a problem from home and the solution is at home - it's got nothing to do with daycare!

[Crayola kiddies]

Yup napping/quiet time is not optional in my daycare either.... If a parent doesn't want their child to nap/rest then they are not a match for my program.

[monkeymama]

Quiet time is not negotiable at my daycare. Everyone has a rest period- if they are under 3 it is a 2 hour nap. Over 3 is 60 mins rest and then quiet activities. As I type, my two 4 yo dcb are watching a movie. When it is over, they have already planned to play a board game.

[kidlove]

heres the problem with parents like that, they more than likely don't want their kid to nap because they want her in bed early at night. so they want you to turn your day upside down so their night is peaceful? to that I say...kiss my #*&%! I hate to be that way, not like we all want to nap ourselves or sit around lazy while all the kids get theirs.....we could use a little break in the day for us...to get our housework done and catch up on the wreck our home becomes because of taking care of their kids all day long. maybe if we are lucky we can pay a bill, throw in a extra load of wash or down a glass of water or maybe finish our lunch that is cold. I understand we are paid to care for their children and we all do a great job of that, but they are expecting us to cater to their specific wishes not realizing not only are we human and need a little break but we also have many other daycare related duties to be fulfilled throughout the day than just caring for their child alone! Nothing wrong with a disney show 20-30 minutes, then she needs to keep quiet on a rest mat, IF she falls esleep? she obviously needs it. let her sleep for half hour then wake if need be, but when a child sleeps it's because their body needs rest. Not to mention what so they want you to do, throw cold water in her face if she shows signs of fatigue. They may need to be set straight or let go, too demanding. IMO ;0

[Momof4]

So, another question related to quiet time. What do you do if the parent doesn't want their child to nap? Hence all the activities I'm trying to keep her busy doing.

My contract states that nap/quiet time is not an option at my daycare either. I've never had a parent question me about naps thank goodness. Sleep is important and if a child falls asleep in the afternoon then their little bodies and minds need the rest so I'm not going to deprive them.

[fruitloop]

Yup napping/quiet time is not optional in my daycare either.... If a parent doesn't want their child to nap/rest then they are not a match for my program.

This exactly! I don't alter my program for anyone. And a movie to fall asleep? That is a crock of sh!t. No way in hell would I allow that in my daycare.

[treeholm]

I have minimal screen time... maybe 30 minutes of a carefully selected program on a rainy day when we can't go out, but most days, nothing. So a child who can't sleep without a show probably wouldn't have started here since I would have told the parent there is no tv most days. Also, they don't have to nap, but they do have to lay still and rest. Even the 4 year old falls asleep most days, and other days, she sings for a while and rests for at least 60 minutes. If she hasn't fallen asleep in the first hour, she can get up and read a book to herself quietly. Under 3, they are in bed for 2 hours. The first few weeks, I had two who screamed or cried for most of nap time, but they both go down cheerfully now and sleep for 2 to 2.5 hours. Both sets of parents tell me they won't sleep at home, but they love their nap here. If a parent said they didn't want their child to nap, I would let them know that I cannot prevent a child from falling asleep if they are tired, and quiet time is not an option.