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apples and bananas
11-22-2013, 07:05 AM
Ok, here's a Friday morning challenge for you.

It's Friday... the fridge is starting to look bare.

Your client shows up and says their concerned about a Gluten allergy with their 1 year old. She's been showing a rash on and off for weeks un explained. There's a history of celiac in her family. She'd like to see if she can remove wheat from the diet today and see if it makes a difference. Apparently the rash Is better in the morning, but is worse when she gets picked up from care.

I have never dealt with a wheat allergy before.

What would you feed for lunch on short notice. What foods am I staying away from?

5 Little Monkeys
11-22-2013, 07:38 AM
Gluten is in so many things that you probably wouldn't even think about. It's not a matter of just not feeding grain/wheat products. To truly know if it's a gluten allergy, a person has to stay away from ALL gluten (even the tiniest bit) and it takes a few days to work the gluten out of your system. At least that is my understanding on it.

I would be telling mom that if she wants to try a gluten free diet that she will have to provide the food for her child. Then after that, if you want you can provide gluten free snacks and lunches.

I would research some articles and print it off or email it to mom so that she understands why she needs to supply the food for now.

gravy_train
11-22-2013, 07:55 AM
Oh yuck - what an annoying way to start the day! I'm with 5 Little Monkeys in that going forward I would ask that the parents provide all the food for the child. It can get very expensive to accommodate a gluten-free diet and then what if another child develops a milk allergy for example and the next thing you know you have all of these crazy dietary restrictions to accommodate - lots of work and lots of money.

For today you could go with rice and veggies? Fruit? hummus? Apples & Bananas (see what I did there ;-))? Good luck!

mickyc
11-22-2013, 07:55 AM
I agree with 5 Monkey's. If mom wants you to provide a special diet for her child then she needs to provide the food.

In my contract I specify that I cannot accommodate any food allergies. I do not want to be responsible for feeding something to a child by accident. I have interviewed with someone whose child had a gluten allergy and told her she would need to provide her own food. She ended up finding a provider who has multiple gluten allergy kids.

I had a friend who was a celiac. She could eat things I wouldn't even have guessed and stayed away from things I would have thought were ok.

cfred
11-22-2013, 07:56 AM
I had a gluten free child and it's not so bad. Wheat is the biggest thing you're looking to avoid, including Kamut. For today, since it's short notice, just give her some rice or whatever you have that isn't wheat. Cheerios are fine too because they're oat. Honestly, gluten free is soooo easy to do now. Gluten free options are available in many stores now. I think even Metro has gluten free options, over by the bakery breads I believe. They're much cheaper in conventional grocery stores than in specialty ones such as Nature's Emporium. I just buy a loaf and stick it in the freezer and pull out single portions as needed. There are also gluten free granola bars, cereal bars, cereals, crackers available in health food stores and many times, in health food sections of grocery stores. Read labels and pay attention to ingredients in things. You'll get used to it quickly and will soon have a list of okay items that you'll know to have on hand. If you want to do home baking, you can purchase prepackaged gluten free flour mixes....for a significant price. Bulk barn makes a cheaper one, but it tastes a little heavy on the quinoa or bean flour....kinda gross. I've tried to make my own blend and they always come out with gummy end results. Personally, I like spelt flour. You'll have to tinker around with recipes as the flour is heavier, but I've always had better results with that. Don't forget that you'll need Xanthan Gum for any baking to bind the end product. 1/4tsp/cup flour for cookies, 1/2 tsp/cup flour for muffins, 3/4 tsp/cup flour for cake. Xanthan Gum is pricey, but you use so little, it lasts a long time. For pasta, I found corn pasta to be the nicest, but don't forget to start cooking it before the other kids' pasta as it takes a while to cook. And yes, there is gluten in lots of things, but if you read labels, you can avoid them easily enough. Most gluten free items will plaster 'Gluten Free!!!" all over their packaging, so they're pretty easy to spot.

Don't sweat it....not terrible at all.

apples and bananas
11-22-2013, 08:12 AM
I've done some reading on gluten vs wheat allergies. And they are very different. She is not showing any signs of a gluten allergy in my opinion. but she may be showing signs of a wheat allergy. She's scratching her neck and cheeks over the past few days and I know Wheat could cause an anaphylaxis response.

So... rice and veggies it is! LOL

Thanks for all of your feedback. If it is a gluten issue or even a wheat allergy I will be asking mom to provide the meals and snacks. Today is just a "try to avoid" kind of a day.

SLD
11-22-2013, 01:09 PM
Mom should have brought food for today. My answer would have had to have been "sorry, I can't accommodate that especially on short notice." If she intends to carry on with this, I would have her provide food.

Fun&care
11-22-2013, 01:23 PM
I don't think it's really fair of her to waltz in and say "no gluten today". That's way too short notice for such a huge change! Sure if she wants to go gluten free fine, but she's going to have to do all the work not you. At least that would be my approach. I went gluten free once ( I experimented a lot with diets to cure my acne) and it can get pretty expensive pretty quick. So if I were to go gluten free I would have to do it for everyone and raise my daily rate...it's a lot of trouble.

madmom
11-22-2013, 01:47 PM
As a celiac sufferer I can tell you that it is very expensive to eat gluten free and it is not only the foods but the risk of cross contamination. I have huge issues sharing butter, jams, etc that the family may have used. that habit of scraping off your knife back in the jar is really hard on me. I also have my own strainer, cutting board and some other utensils that I keep for my own use. It isn't just wheat either, it is barley (malt) rye, and triticale (not sure what that is but it's on the list to avoid) Oats are very often contaminated and should be avoided unless they are labeled gluten free. So cheerios are not an option sorry to say. I would offer a slight discount and ask the family to provide any gluten free lunches/snacks while you provide the fruits and veggies. Good luck and I hope I don't sound too preachy, G-free is not easy

nschildcare
11-22-2013, 08:46 PM
I agree that mom should have brought food. If she is concerned, she needs to take on that responsibility herself. I have celiacs and would never eat cheerios. I can't eat oats unless they are certified gf. Same with rice. It needs to be gf. The longer I am gf the more sensitive I am.

If there is concern, I think it needs to be put on mom to provide the food. Gluten is in so many things that you wouldn't even suspect and cross contamination is a huge concern as pp said. For that reason, I can't/won't do bulk barn.

So, while it can be done, it's not easy and it's not cheap. Put it right back on the parents. Good luck!

bright sparks
11-22-2013, 10:54 PM
White rice is NOT GLUTEN FREE. Be sure to only give brown rice. Gluten and Wheat free is extremely easy to follow once you have educated yourself on the ins and outs of it. I would insist that the parents provide food until you have a very clear and accurate understanding of what is and what isn't WF and GF. See how even on this forum people have the best intentions but make innocent mistakes by saying give them rice when it absolutly must be brown rice. You need to be clear on the specifics having sourced your info from the professionals, or the other alternative is ask the parents to provide food ongoing if you don't want to change all your kids to W and G free as I assume you don't want to make an extra meal daily.

My household is Wheat and Gluten free. It is super easy and as long as you aren't serving processed foods you should not have to worry about hidden gluten in items. For example, gluten is found in sandwich meats...that is a processed food and I do not serve processed foods to my daycare children so it is not an issue I need to watch out for.

bright sparks
11-23-2013, 04:49 PM
As a side note I buy my organic gluten free grains in bulk which saves me an enormous amount of money. It is all certified Non Gmo, Organic and Gluten free so no worries over cross contamination.

nschildcare
11-24-2013, 09:01 AM
As a side note I buy my organic gluten free grains in bulk which saves me an enormous amount of money. It is all certified Non Gmo, Organic and Gluten free so no worries over cross contamination.

Where do you get them from? I have purchased some flours and such online from nuts.com and have been happy with them.

bright sparks
11-24-2013, 07:07 PM
Where are you located nschildcare? I can find out if they are available in your area.

nschildcare
11-25-2013, 04:07 AM
I'm in Nova Scotia. The site I mentioned is in the US so it would be great to find something else.

daycaremom9
11-25-2013, 03:52 PM
My hubby was diagnosed celiac about 6 months ago and I am surprised to learn that white rice isn't gluten free?! Goes to show you that going wheat free has a definite learning curve. I find that it can be quite expensive to go gluten free. I was buying a lot of the baking mixes,which are very pricey so since I've started my Christmas baking I'm trying to make my own flour mix. Cfred, what type of flour do you combine the xantham gum with?
I've found deli meats that are gluten free. I don't eat them because of the nitrates but my hubby does. I've also heard that oats are often contaminated with gluten because of how they're processed.

Daisy123
11-25-2013, 04:39 PM
I believe that white rice itself only contains rice gluten which I believe is safe for celiac but you need to be careful about what brands you buy because the enriching process involves putting a coating on it that cn involve a gluten base. http://celiacdisease.about. com/od/glutenfreefoodshoppi n1/f/Gluten-Free-Rice.htm

nschildcare
11-25-2013, 05:02 PM
I buy lundsberg farms (sp) rice as it is certified gluten free. I can also find gf oats at superstore. If you check out elanaspantry.com she has some really great recipes. She uses almond flour which can be hard to find (in ns anyways) so I've always ordered it online. I buy in bulk, stick it in my freezer and use as needed. Her recipes are really easy and taste good. Even my kids like them so that's saying something :)

Yes it is expensive. Very.

cymbri
04-13-2019, 06:24 PM
There is treatment for gluten/wheat allergy and it utilizes the Immune System to fix an immune problem.
There are 2 controls by the immune system which are compared to Yin-yang or positive & negative.
1. The helper T Cell functions to increase antibodies
2. The Suppressor T Cell functions to decrease antibodies – also called Regulatory T cells or T Reg cells

Oral Tolerance is the method that scientist & researchers called this treatment.
It harnesses the T REg cells and lowers gluten antibodies.

The good news is this method has been successful in animal trials.
However, it has not been successful in human trials.
The reason for the human failure is lack of a blood factor called B7. Animal experiments were done on young animals and their immune systems produced good enough quantities of B7.

The good news is that certain Herbs are able to induce B7 ( a lymphokine) by blood lymphocytes.

Modern Medicine has joined with research in doing experiments but their policy is herbs are not part of their approved ingredients because herbs can not be patented and will not generate much return.

However, our company has combined the knowledge of Oral Tolerance and herbs to produce a successful formula. There are over 40 known herbs that are able to induce B7 by lymphocytes.
There is one last hurdle in this formula. To produce the needed B7, the dose must be a certain dosage on humans and we found that though B7 is induced, the blood cells that produced the B7 also produce other lymphokines such as Tumor necrosis Factor, Interferons and Interleukins – many of these cause inflammation in the body and inflammation leads to failure since it causes increase of antibodies. Therefore to create a successful formula, we had to experiment with various herbs and herb formula and found certain herb combinations lead to minimum inflammation.
So our formula is Oral Tolerance which is antigens as peptide and the correct herb to produce B7.
Since the formula lowers 3 Antibodies – Immunoglobins M & Immunoglobin G &Immunoglobin E – , the Immunoglobin E is involved in allergies -it heals allergies.

More info at:
http://follownaturesway.net/gluten-diseases.html

jessiii
12-21-2021, 04:50 AM
thank you, I have had the same problem