Weird..............

[Hape*]

I experience the strange interview Tuesday. I read one time someone say there may be secret inspections where say they need care but really undercover. Tuesday I had mom come for interview dad run late. She come at 5 and I have another interview at 5:30, 5:30 come around and new family come for interview, I tell mom I have another family here....She say noooooooooo my husband be here soon...knock on door it husband. She tell husband I interview another family and she want to come back when I finish interview so dad can meet me. They come back but there were so many weird stuffs that happen.
-ask mom to see photo of son, she kept saying how cute he is, she tell me she forgot her cell pone and the phone she using in front of me is work phone
-she communicate with husband using "work" phone
-she keep asking for my Id , I thought it strange how she ask so I say it not here
-when I ask son name she get confused and say Huck
-when they come back say wanted to my reference and cpr while he reading mom ask me for tour? She was already here and my daycare space not very big no need for a tour , feel like she try to distract me from something
-they wanted to take copy of my police check and diploma from school, I say no
-mom say she common law and then dad say they married
-they bring print out of my daycare ad o kijiji
-the leave at 6:30 so I wonder to myself by the time they get son it is 7 ish what daycare open that late
I may be paranoid but does this seem od to any others?

[Suzie_Homemaker]

Undercover for what? Seriously!

Community Services are perfectly entitled to knock on your door and ask to check you out, even if you private day care. The idea they do this undercover is beyond stupid.

They would have to risk being told vacancy gone, or that carer not interested or that carer vetting process knocked out their "undercover parent" when they can just ID themselves and come in 100% of the time.

This is daycare. Not the secret service. If you actually think about the pros and cons of them pretending to be anything else, you'll realized it make no sense and totally pointless exercise.


Talking of weird...why did you ask to see photo of son? If you didn't insist on the son coming to interview, when did you anticipate meeting the child? Why would it matter what the child looks like ? I don't have any photos of my kids on my phone. Nothing odd about that. What is odd, is you asking to see a photo!

So what if she communicated with her husband using her work phone. If that's the only one she has with her, what did you expect her to use?

Why would you lie to a potential client about if your ID is there? It's your house isn't it? If you don't want to give your ID to anyone, that's fine but why lie? Why not say that it's irrelevant and if you don't like the way the interview is going, why didn't you tell them to leave?

Of course parents want a tour! They want to see where the children will eat, sleep and play. If that's not common for your interviews, that's is odd.

I could continue down your list of point but more I read from you, more I think you are Emma. You make no sense. You think they behaved odd but I think you did too and when something doesn't make sense, it's not normally true.

[ebhappydc]

I don't know what to make of this but all I can say is I always try to have another adult home with me after daycare hours because there have been some bad outcomes from Kijiji ads. (Suzy, you could work for law enforcement, nothing gets past you).

[playfelt]

Actually sounds almost like someone interested in opening a daycare themselves and potentially looking to steal info - contract, diploma, police check, etc. While distracted maybe dad would be taking pictures of the set up - say this because I had a family do this exact thing or at least attempt to. I now refuse to interview if the child is not present. I am interested in how the child interacts with me and the parents as part of my decision. If they show up at the door without child I send them away to rebook. Not interested in dealing with multiple visits. It is odd for them to ask to be "separated" as it was to show the dad the place too so he can read the forms at home and he should have been part of the tour. I see lots of red flags in this. Not sure I would get paranoid about undercover as far as the ministry goes but for sure there are parents looking for info to start their own daycare that operate this way. I would prefer they just be upfront and I will talk to them and mentor them if they just ask.

[babydom]

I also agree that this wouldn't be ministry as they have any right to come and ask to come in. But I tottally agree with playfelt. and I also wonder that ppl can come in to check the house out to come back to rob it later or something. to try to keep me safe I use facebook and word of mouth for advertising. I don't trust kijiji. And I ALWAYS say the child has to be present to. I send away also to rebook when child is here.

[Hape*]

Suzie you ask me my name I tell it my name is Sophia so why you call me Emma? You not very nice all I was try to do it get some opinion. English is not my first language so I might have said some in wrong way. I not weird for asking for photo, the mom keep telling me how cute son is so I ask if she had photo. Many parents have photo of kids in phone or wallet that was my test to see if she had son cause I have weird gut feeling. She had tour already, she ask for second one while husband was reading my stuff. He did have his phone out the whole time so I think he take some pitures. Thank you everyone for helpg me :)

[Hape*]

You right! she keep asking me where I buy this toy and that toy so she can buy for son. She say son is at daycare while I do interview and I ask her what hour do the need, they say to me 9:5 at there current daycare and they would keep same hours with me, but they leave at 6:20-6:30 so who watch child, strange to me

[5 Little Monkeys]

It is a bit weird but I think I agree with playfelt. Sounds more like a person wanting to open up a hdc and is looking around to see what the competition looks like. She's dedicated though if that's what she's doing...I wouldn't bother coming back lol

[Hape*]

ahhaha I agree, thank you for post :)

[sandylynn]

WOW! Seriously? Way to much for my brain to handle at days end! LOLOLOL

[Suzie_Homemaker]

(Suzy, you could work for law enforcement, nothing gets past you).

Not worked for police but worked on and off for years on side as insurance investigator. Fake claims, fraudulent claims etc. (family business) - that is why tone, text, manner, personalities, commonalities don't often get past me. It's also why I have the belief I've already stated.

Often if a fake persona is proven, a new one appear in short time. Cheats are always cheats. Fraudulent claimants tend to have pattern of dishonest schemes. Liars are always liars. But mixed in with lies, the true person has traits that show through. When caught, if the clues are shared, next time round, those give away clues are addressed.

But underlying personal traits (victim mentality, the blame game (everyone else is odd/rude/disrespectful), pity votes, condescending tone, need for centre of attention) all are pattern they can't escape.

This is those who investigating don't release all the information. There are always traits/clues which aren't disclosed.

If you call someone out on being fake, and tell them why and then same fake/scam/scheme pops up and only the clues you shared are changed but the other tell-tale signs not changed, then it often easier to spot. Also, you get to see the common behaviours.

I have my beliefs and reasons for holding them. Someone crying "unfair" is not going to change my mind because liars lie and it's about deflecting attention. The normal way of doing the is to try and turn attention back on accuser.

Everyone who ever had a teen knows this.

[ebhappydc]

Not worked for police but worked on and off for years on side as insurance investigator. Fake claims, fraudulent claims etc. (family business) - that is why tone, text, manner, personalities, commonalities don't often get past me. It's also why I have the belief I've already stated.

Often if a fake persona is proven, a new one appear in short time. Cheats are always cheats. Fraudulent claimants tend to have pattern of dishonest schemes. Liars are always liars. But mixed in with lies, the true person has traits that show through. When caught, if the clues are shared, next time round, those give away clues are addressed.

But underlying personal traits (victim mentality, the blame game (everyone else is odd/rude/disrespectful), pity votes, condescending tone, need for centre of attention) all are pattern they can't escape.

This is those who investigating don't release all the information. There are always traits/clues which aren't disclosed.

If you call someone out on being fake, and tell them why and then same fake/scam/scheme pops up and only the clues you shared are changed but the other tell-tale signs not changed, then it often easier to spot. Also, you get to see the common behaviours.

I have my beliefs and reasons for holding them. Someone crying "unfair" is not going to change my mind because liars lie and it's about deflecting attention. The normal way of doing the is to try and turn attention back on accuser.

Everyone who ever had a teen knows this.

I have same feeling as you and see the similar styles. But to be honest, I was afraid you were a Rachel (don't ask) at the beginning of your posts and I was wrong.

But if you're right then still no matter really. Just gets us providers talking about ideas about potential situations like we would in a childcare class/business setup. In this case makes us all aware of what can happen during interview, and to remind everyone to be very careful of Kijiji strangers that arrange interviews with us. True or not, might as well take the good out of it and ignore the rest.

[Hape*]

I don understand why we talk about investigators suzie? Not nice to act that way and speak to others and tell others their thought stupid. What make your opion better then rest? I hope you not act this way with yours daycare children.

It is very spooky feeling to know you talk to someone in your home face to face who was fake person and you have no idea what intensions were.

[innisfildaycare]

OK - Im so confused? Im not trying to offend anyone in any way...but did I miss a post here somewhere? Hape was concerned about about an interview she felt weary about it. Some people maybe look past things, and take longer to understand what others are all about/suggesting or getting at. Sometimes people trust others too much, but dont trust their own judgement, hence the reason why Hape came on the forum asking for help. Not sure how this all got turned around into what kind of person Hape is? Again, not offending anyone, just really confused??

[Hape*]

Yes innisfildaycare that what I was try to do. Suzie ask if I am a Emma but I say my name Sophia so I don understand why she keep talk and talk. Do you think we know one anoter other? I not understand what you trying to get across.

[33 Daiseys]

Hape- That is a very very awful feeling. I personally don't have my kids home when interviewing. My husband takes them out for a doughnut at the tims around the corner from our house, and comes back usually within 30 - 40 minutes.
I don't allow anyone to take anything except a copy of my contract ( my husband being awesome put water marks on the paper, interviewed a person who was looking for contracts to copy for her daycare. She called two days later wanting to know how to get the watermark off. She had tried to photocopy it for her clients. I was like"Your not only going to steal my hard work, but your even going to steal my name?".), photo's ect. Parents must come with their child, and I ask if they are switching from another daycare to have a letter of progress for the dcp( lets me know how they were in daycare, any areas that are problematic ect.)

[pink]

We have all experienced weird interviews. I remember meeting a couple they were looking for care for their daughter, first they wanted full-time and the mom did tell me that she was off every second Friday but she would have no problem in paying me anyways. After, they leave, we communicated by e-mail back, now she wants 8 days instead of 10. She asked for my references call them and never call me back.

What I learnt is trust your instincts and we should always be in the driver's seat. If they are not a fit for your daycare, at the time of the interview you should just let them know. I also remember interviewing a family without their children, I took them on as clients become their father is my neighbors. The family was a nightmare and their boys were not a fit for my daycare. I also have another rule, meet the husband and wife, I tell them that I want to meet both of them with their child. One interview, I usually interview Saturday morning, my days are long enough, no need to conduct interviews in the evening.

[daycarelady2]

I get that the 'ministry' can come and inspect your home. But for one I never answer the door when home doing daycare. My door stays locked. And is only open for parent drop offs/pick ups. And even if by chance I did answer the door so many creepy stuff happens I would be very cautious and skeptical at opening the door for someone who announced they worked for the 'ministry' what if was said under a rouse and it was actually a home invader?? Yes I watch too much criminal minds lol.