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Calgarymom
05-27-2015, 01:21 PM
So, one of my dc families is having a hard time. I offered to fill her space for the summer (she is a teacher). She was very greatful as that will help them out a lot. However she came yesterday and said she cannot afford to pay for June and Friday would be his last day until September. So now I am a months payment down and cannot fill the space in 3 days. To try to sort this I advertised a drop in space and I have someone interested who wants to come tomorrow. So my question is do I owe her care until Friday or did she forfeit on the contract so I can too?
Thanks ladies
babydom
05-27-2015, 01:27 PM
What does your contract say? If u have two wks notice or a mth then she can leave in three days but still has to pay you the full notice amount. I don't think u can kick her out early to let in a new one tomorrow. It will depend what the contract says.
Calgarymom
05-27-2015, 01:29 PM
My contract says a months notice, she does not have this money to pay, it's between her mortgage and me so I loose!!
kindertime
05-27-2015, 01:39 PM
To try to sort this I advertised a drop in space and I have someone interested who wants to come tomorrow. So my question is do I owe her care until Friday or did she forfeit on the contract so I can too?
I think I would be leary of someone who would want to start the child the next day. I think you have to go by your contract. But even if you were allowed to do it, wouldn't you want to check out the new family first?
And has this parent forfieted her spot in Sept by pulling out before the summer. That's what I might wonder. You were willing to hold her spot but she isn't giving you the same consideration.
mickyc
05-27-2015, 02:03 PM
I would tell her "I am sorry for your circumstances but my contract states I must be given 1 months notice". I would push the issue too. My contract states I will attend small claims court if not paid. There would certainly be no agreement for September after this has happened.
I had a family try and skip out of paying. Dad got laid off, grandparents picked up kids on payday saying dad would stop by with payment. Dad called shortly after saying kids not coming back. I said I am sorry for your situation but we have a signed contract and you owe me 2 weeks pay (I have since increased my notice period to 3 weeks). Dad freaked saying they were not going to pay blah blah blah. I did up an invoice, gave them a payment plan option over the next month. If the decided not to accept my payment plan I would file through small claim. They ended up making payments and then they were done! My contract also reads all receipts will be held until all fees are collected. They wanted their daycare receipts and didn't want wages garnisheed from small claims.
I have bills, a mortgage, etc there is a reason my contract states 3 weeks notice. I cannot afford to have my pay cut immediately. I get that she has no money to give but that is not your problem. She owes what she owes. You are a bill just like her mortgage and hydro etc. your payment is not optional.
5 Little Monkeys
05-27-2015, 02:54 PM
Totally agree with mickyc! My payment is not an option. If times are rough, I would work out a payment plan with her but I wouldn't just let it go. I also don't think I'd be giving her the spot in September. I'd fill it as soon as possible.
Calgarymom
05-27-2015, 03:35 PM
Lol, I spoke to mom and explained that she would still have to pay for June and that if necessary we could come to some kind of payment plan. She offered to pay over 3 months but now as she is paying for it she wants him to come in June. I now run the risk of providing care that I won't be paid for!!!!
kindertime
05-27-2015, 04:04 PM
Lol, I spoke to mom and explained that she would still have to pay for June and that if necessary we could come to some kind of payment plan. She offered to pay over 3 months but now as she is paying for it she wants him to come in June. I now run the risk of providing care that I won't be paid for!!!!
Are you meaning she wants to take 3 months to pay for the month of June? I think you should give an unqualified "no" to that plan.
BlueRose
05-27-2015, 04:54 PM
If she wants to send her kid. Then she has to pay before care. If she wants a payment plan then no care. You are running a business not a charity. You need to make sure you get paid.
superfun
05-27-2015, 05:42 PM
Yes, I completely agree with BlueRose. Although I'm not great at standing up for myself, I think that's the only way. The payment plan is just an option for her so that she'll still have a space available in September. If she wants care in June she needs to pay beforehand.
Plus, I wouldn't feel bad for her. Unless there has been something huge and unexpected come up (which is why she should have an emergency fund), chances are she's just over spending in general.
Suzie_Homemaker
05-27-2015, 07:47 PM
My contract says a months notice, she does not have this money to pay, it's between her mortgage and me so I loose!!
No, no, no.
You are a business. You have a contract. Tell her clearly what you were willing to help short term over summer but you can not forgive debt of whole month fees. That is not your contact. Be clear that this is not option, that you sympathise but you should not be hung out because she managed income badly. Be clear that if need be, you will take her to Small Claims for your months fees. Three days is not even close to the mark.
Lee-Bee
05-27-2015, 07:55 PM
Do NOT provide care in June without FULL advanced payment. If she is terminating care then she pays until this Friday and the child do NOT come tomorrow or Friday. Contract is over, she is breaking it. She pays but care is done.
September is NOT an option. She has broken the contract and has shown she doesn't not care to abide by the contract...you cannot let her resume care in a few months to break the contract again when she decides to.
Call her tonight. Let her know that he is not welcome tomorrow unless she has payment for June in hand (not post dated). Let her know her space so no longer available for September that you will fill it with a family that can abide by the signed contract.
I don't know that I would go through much trouble to force the month notice payment (as per contract). If she legitimately doesn't have it then it will be a lot of time and effort and lost money on your part to get it. You might be best to find a new family and fill the spot ASAP. It should be easier to fill the spot long term than just for a few months. If having trouble filling it, then fill it for the summer while looking for a family to start in the fall.
Suzie_Homemaker
05-27-2015, 08:00 PM
I agree. If she is planning on remaining in day care, then she has to pay in full when fees are due. If she's quitting before, changing your agreement (either the original or the amended summer off to help her) then she goes now, and agrees a payment plan for the notice period.
This is not Burger King. She doesn't get to tailor the service or payment plan so she gets everything her way.
Personally, if a teacher who averages $70k+ for approx 200 days work can't budget their income for summer, then this has potential of being on going issue. Annoys me when these people who earn more than double what we do, think it's okay to screw their provider because they have no money sense.
mickyc
05-28-2015, 09:11 AM
Omg!! If she wants to send her child then the payment plan is not an option. She needs to give proper notice. If she cannot afford to pay for that notice period you can work out a payment plan but there is no care taking place during that time!!
I would also not take this family back in September. A client who does not want to follow your contract does not value you or your services. Goodbye to her!!!