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ebhappydc
08-15-2017, 08:25 PM
I just signed on a new child today and received deposit and signed contract. All info was filled in except the child's health card number. I'm going to ask for it as it may have been an oversight, but are there parents who don't want to disclose this information? Must I have it? I have it for all the other kids but can a parent refuse for some reason? Tx

Lee-Bee
08-15-2017, 09:09 PM
I just signed on a new child today and received deposit and signed contract. All info was filled in except the child's health card number. I'm going to ask for it as it may have been an oversight, but are there parents who don't want to disclose this information? Must I have it? I have it for all the other kids but can a parent refuse for some reason? Tx

My understanding is that the health card number is useless without the physical card. There is no need to have the card. Here in Ontario they will treat the patient then get the card for payment. If you call an ambulance they do not ask for the card, they arrive and treat.

I could be wrong...but this is my understanding and I have never requested a health card number.

kindredspirit
08-16-2017, 01:50 PM
Perhaps it varies by province. Here in NS it is used to link to your health record in ER (it is possible to search by name, birthday and address, but much more time consuming, creates a delay in the nurse getting a chart for the patient). More to the point as a care provider-it's in our provincial regulations that we must keep records on all children, followed by a list of things-including dentist name and phone number of all ridiculous things! So I do collect health card number and expiry, as it's checked at my inspections and useful in an emergency.

BlueRose
08-16-2017, 02:19 PM
In Ontario you don't have to have the card or number if its an emergency. Having the number helps the hospital out, But if you don't have it its not an issue as parents can provide it when they arrive.

I do ask for the number just in case.

cfred
08-16-2017, 03:01 PM
My understanding is that the health card number is useless without the physical card. There is no need to have the card. Here in Ontario they will treat the patient then get the card for payment. If you call an ambulance they do not ask for the card, they arrive and treat.

I could be wrong...but this is my understanding and I have never requested a health card number.

I'm not sure if that's correct. I'm bringing in the sibling of one of my little guys. In 20 odd years, he's the first one i'm nervous about - completely fearless and so, so, SO active! A couple weeks ago, I went to the walk in clinic that is right by my house to see what I need in place for the injuries that are absolutely going to occur with this little guy. They said I could bring a permission letter from the parents and a copy of his health card. I'm in Newmarket, ON. Maybe it's changed recently?

Peacefulbird
08-16-2017, 06:22 PM
I do not think it is necessary, but in case of any serious injuries I do not think health practicioners will deny their help because of missing health card information. Even if there isn't a health carD, they will help and then decide how all will be payed cash or Ontario health card. My contract has the "parent consent form in case of accidents and they can not be reached" it is signed by both parents. This form also has the child's Dr. Information in case they need to reach him/her.

Suzie_Homemaker
08-17-2017, 07:30 AM
This seem to vary by province which make sense since child care regulations are provincially set. The information and rules vary so much base on where you located.

I am expected to have health card number in PEI. But here, that linked to next of kin, home address, family doctor and also we in middle of computerizing all medical records so eventually it also be linked to medical history, patient allergies and vital key information about what medications are currently being taken. Idea is that anyone arriving in hospital which could be the case with a child if accident in daycare, then doctors not depending on family arriving to give key information presuming they know it.

Personally, my view is it's better to have it and find out the health number is useless without the card, then it would be to need it and not have the information. I make sure I have the health card number but also the name and contact information for the family doctor. I don't think medical attention will be denied either way but at least if you have to escort child in an emergency, having the family doctor name and health card number means the hospital has methods for finding information until parents arrive.

Lee-Bee
08-17-2017, 09:16 AM
I'm not sure if that's correct. I'm bringing in the sibling of one of my little guys. In 20 odd years, he's the first one i'm nervous about - completely fearless and so, so, SO active! A couple weeks ago, I went to the walk in clinic that is right by my house to see what I need in place for the injuries that are absolutely going to occur with this little guy. They said I could bring a permission letter from the parents and a copy of his health card. I'm in Newmarket, ON. Maybe it's changed recently?

Is he prone to injury at home? I ask because my youngest nephew is crazy active and a daredevil with no fear. He's now just turned 3 and he has yet to have an injury of any sort. He was riding a 2 wheeler at turbo speed at age 2, mastered a scooter with crazy moves at 1.5. He moves and stacks furniture to climb to reach things. The kid is nuts. But he is SKILLED. He knows exactly how to manipulate his body and achieve his goal. Last week (the week he turned 3) they found him sitting on the cross bar of the swing set (like the part the swings hang from). Skilled. His parents keep hoping he will get hurt so he learns to slow down. But, the kid is just very good at what he does and truly knows his limits, his limits are just veryyyyyyy different then the average child!

Hopefully your DCB is the same and stay injury free on your watch!

ebhappydc
08-17-2017, 02:06 PM
These parents are so nice - I asked for the HC# info and they apologized saying they were rushing through the enrolment form to get it back to me asap so not to risk losing the spot. Makes up for the family that recently cancelled.
I don't know why I didn't think of asking my son who recently moved out to work as a paramedic in Ontario. I asked if he would still treat someone even if he didn't have health card number handy. My question didn't go over well with him and he texted me back 'No mom, I just stand there and watch the person keel over if they don't have their card handy'. He always was a bit of a brat, but in hindsight it was maybe a dumb question on my part. He eventually texted to me. " Each child should have their own page containing the following:. Full name, mailing address, allergies (if no allergies put NKA (no known allergies)), medications (if no, then put 'none') medical conditions (if no, put 'none'), HC#, parents contact info, doctor contact info ".