VERY fishy inquiry into my daycare... Thoughts?

So, I replied with my phone number and asked her to contact me this is the reply I received this morning

Thanks for your quick response. We are Canadians working and living in Mexico for the past 3 years, it's time to relocate back to Canada in 2 weeks, i would have loved to call you but our work timing will not allow me to and i will need a calling card to do so, that why i chose emailing for proper registration process ahead our arrival.

Your charges is very affordable to us and it's perfectly okay with our budget as planned, but before we go ahead, the safety our our children matter most to us.

If you don't mind, we will like to know about you and your Daycare? What should be our expectation on our children while attending your Daycare? What about food, will you be the one providing their food or they should always come with their food? You may also supply any additional information as well.

Your quick response will be appreciated. I will get back to you with all the necessary information you need to know about our children to continue the registration process and i will send you our recent family picture as well.


Just so you are all aware, !

Here's the thing.

I don't take on clients that I can't meet first. For that reason alone I would not send any information to an email like this.

I would always insist that the client send a phone number to me to continue the process. I give out only information that is on my website anyways.

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So, I replied with my phone number and asked her to contact me this is the reply I received this morning

Thanks for your quick response. We are Canadians working and living in Mexico for the past 3 years, it's time to relocate back to Canada in 2 weeks, i would have loved to call you but our work timing will not allow me to and i will need a calling card to do so, that why i chose emailing for proper registration process ahead our arrival.

Your charges is very affordable to us and it's perfectly okay with our budget as planned, but before we go ahead, the safety our our children matter most to us.

If you don't mind, we will like to know about you and your Daycare? What should be our expectation on our children while attending your Daycare? What about food, will you be the one providing their food or they should always come with their food? You may also supply any additional information as well.

Your quick response will be appreciated. I will get back to you with all the necessary information you need to know about our children to continue the registration process and i will send you our recent family picture as well.


Just so you are all aware, !

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That's interesting that they replied back. Id still be a bit Leary since a lot of us got the same email I know I did and I'm in Ontario, how could they be moving into my area and your area as well??

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Originally Posted by Mama of 1

That's interesting that they replied back. Id still be a bit Leary since a lot of us got the same email I know I did and I'm in Ontario, how could they be moving into my area and your area as well??

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I got that exact same response to my email...word for word after I told them I do not enroll without an interview.

so clearly its a scam.

I just received this one in my email, so it looks like they keep going with their scam. I did reply, even though I knew it wasn't true. The response again is the exact same as others and they do not go in to your answers. I'll keep playing the game and maybe get something to see if we can bring it to the police or something??

Oh man, I wish I'd checked here two days ago when I got the e-mail. My gut told me there was something wrong, should have gone with my gut and just deleted it.

OMG I GOT THE SAME EMAIL!!!:blink:

I got the same email as well and just deleted it

Hello! Has anyone ever been contacted by someone claiming they are interested in daycare who seemed like they were running a scam? I was recently contacted by someone who claims they need daycare right a way and is currently in Mexico. They want to get the registration process done before they relocate. The grammar is off, and I get a weird feeling from the message. They haven't asked for references or anything and seem keen to enrol. I have heard of scams where people send a cheque for a substantial amount, more than required and then ask you to send the difference to them. Anyone had this happen to them? Any advice?

There's a couple threads on this email scam going around right now.

Ignore them and mark them as spam on your email account.

is this the message you got

To: cantinmoore@icloud.c om
From: cantinmoores@icloud. com
Subject: Registration
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:05:00 +0000

Greetings,

My name is Cantin Moore. I just searched for your contact on internet, when searching for a daycare in your area for our two little boys. We are relocating to your area and we need a daycare to register our little boys as soon as possible ahead of our arrival in your area. Their names and age are Konbri 2 years and Harry 3 years 10 months old.

I will like to know if you have open space to registers our boys because we want to register our boys with you now before our arrival, so we can focus on setting up our business without any waste of time on searching for daycare once we get over there.

We will like to always drop our children at your daycare Monday to Friday every morning by 10 AM to 3 PM or 4 PM. Also i will like to know how much money do you charges per week, day or hourly, please explain?

Please get back to me on time if you have open for our 2 boys and let me know your fees as well, so we can continue on their registration process with you.

I will be waiting for your quick response.

Thanks

ALSO SENT ME FAMILY PIC WHICH I'M SURE NOT HER FAMILY

Hi BridgetAnn,
That is the exact email I got! Ugh…thanks for sharing. Now I am pretty sure it is a scam.

Hey Bridget Anne,
How did you respond to that email? Or did you ignore it?

I got the same email and I am located in Ottawa... so it is a scam :(

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Originally Posted by Sassygirl

Just received this email inquiry:

> Greetings,
>
> My name is Cantin Moore. I just searched for your contact on internet, when searching for a daycare in your area for our two little boys. We are relocating to your area and we need a daycare to register our little boys as soon as possible ahead of our arrival in your area. Their names and age are Konbri 2 years and Harry 3 years 10 months old.
>
> I will like to know if you have open space to registers our boys because we want to register our boys with you now before our arrival, so we can focus on setting up our business without any waste of time on searching for daycare once we get over there.
>
> We will like to always drop our children at your daycare Monday to Friday every morning by 10 AM to 3 PM or 4 PM. Also i will like to know how much money do you charges per week, day or hourly, please explain?
>
> Please get back to me on time if you have open for our 2 boys and let me know your fees as well, so we can continue on their registration process with you.
>
> I will be waiting for your quick response.
>
> Thanks

Odd huh? Or is it just me.

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I got it too- yeah, I don't think so! when alarm bells go off in your head, move on to the next!

I got the same email and I am In VANCOUVER SO WATCH OUT GIRLS !!!!

I got the same one, and I'm in Niagara. It felt fishy and I never replied. Now I can mark it as spam.

Hi i just wanted to thank all of you for your posts. I have received the same e-mail and responses. I also have received a fishy inquiry from an Ashley Wayne that is based along the same lines as the one from Cantin Moore. Is there somewhere where we can report them for these messages that are a scam? As a daycare provider I find this kind of behavior very discouraging and hope that there is something we can do to prevent anyone from being taken in by it.

Ugh!! I also received the same email, I thought it was suspicious but to be honest I was a little excited because I am just starting out so adding more to my group is my goal. The correspondence always seemed a bit off. I am so happy I decided to join the forum today to see what everyone's thoughts were. The scammers asked if they could have my address and send two week deposit. This finally confirmed my initial spidey sense that this wasn't legit. I didn't ask for a deposit and my address is on my correspondence. I will mark the email as spam. I wonder if police should be notified or the news?? So happy I found this forum! Thank you for all the response!

I rec'd the same email, I thought everything was okay, until he asked me for my information. I feel scammed. Who do we report this to?

HI EVERYONE I had the EXACT same messages you all had .... I was almost convinced but my gut told me no .. my friend searched and found this forum.. it confirmed our suspicions thank goodness.

Well i was stupid enough to give my address. Thank goodness i didnt include my apartment number. But he does have my name and the rest of my address. I am scared. :( what should i do?


Edit: I DID give him my info after all :( I'm so sad...

Hi...did he respond further? He has my address too. I'm scared now...

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Originally Posted by a.isaacs@hotmail.com

I rec'd the same email, I thought everything was okay, until he asked me for my information. I feel scammed. Who do we report this to?

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I forwarded my email conversation to info@antifraudcentre .ca
PLEASE DO THE SAME BECAUSE I AM VERY SCARED AND WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.

Oh no, me too, I thought it was fascinating to have kids from Mexico coming to my daycare, I will report it now.

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Originally Posted by Cheryl24

Oh no, me too, I thought it was fascinating to have kids from Mexico coming to my daycare, I will report it now.

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I just filed report too

I am not knowledgeable on scams but I would assume because he(most likely it's a group actually) is emailing ladies from different provinces that he is nowhere near any of you. It is a money scam and he most likely doesn't even live in Canada.

If you are truly scared and want to feel more assured, give your local police a call and explain the situation to them. They will be better to talk to and can answer some of your questions. They will probably want to know about the scam too

Cantin Moore <cantinmoore@icloud. com>SCAM!!!

Hi,

Happy to hear that the deposit is not important at this time, but i want you to please see it from my own view as well that: I will not be coming with my wife and kids, it's very important to put everything in proper order for them ahead of their arrival over there. Also she won't be able to take more than $2,000 in cash with her to Canada which will be what they will be surviving on till i arrive because we presently have no Canadian account and my staying back like i said is to put thing in order according to our financial importance. I have to terminate our credit lines and all order attachment with our banks here in order to have our funds transferred to our Canadian account, this is part of the reason why am staying back.

And i'm also in fear that things can change when you are making arrangement like this without using deposit to make it a concrete arrangement that the space will not be given to another family, I must tell you that i contacted about 4 different daycare before i got your contact for my children, but they are all full and telling me they won't have anymore space until 6 months time or 9 months time, I won't want anything to change at all, because i believe this is a very hard time to get hold of any daycare or home daycare. that's why the deposit is more than important at this time because it's like a luck to have you.

This all process is to have everything ready for my family, so my absent won't affect them financially and generally till i arrive. Please send me your name and address to mail the deposit to you on time, so i can be sure that everything will be intact as conclude.

You will receive deposit within 2 to 3 business day. Waiting to hear from you soon.

-Daycare in Burnaby ,BC

Thanks Jenny Boa for copying the scammers reply, they want to send their cheque so when it goes into our bank a/c they can have our bank details and somehow get at our money, or how does it work?

I got this same email from this person. I hope nobody here gets scammed.

Beware everyone.

Aida

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Originally Posted by BridgetAnn

is this the message you got

To: cantinmoore@icloud.c om
From: cantinmoores@icloud. com
Subject: Registration
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:05:00 +0000

Greetings,

My name is Cantin Moore. I just searched for your contact on internet, when searching for a daycare in your area for our two little boys. We are relocating to your area and we need a daycare to register our little boys as soon as possible ahead of our arrival in your area. Their names and age are Konbri 2 years and Harry 3 years 10 months old.

I will like to know if you have open space to registers our boys because we want to register our boys with you now before our arrival, so we can focus on setting up our business without any waste of time on searching for daycare once we get over there.

We will like to always drop our children at your daycare Monday to Friday every morning by 10 AM to 3 PM or 4 PM. Also i will like to know how much money do you charges per week, day or hourly, please explain?

Please get back to me on time if you have open for our 2 boys and let me know your fees as well, so we can continue on their registration process with you.

I will be waiting for your quick response.

Thanks

ALSO SENT ME FAMILY PIC WHICH I'M SURE NOT HER FAMILY

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With a scam like this, the goal is usually to send you a cheque, but it's for more than is required. So then they ask you to deposit it and withdraw the difference to send back to them. By the time you discover that the cheque has bounced, they have already got your money and they are gone. Unfortunately, there is not a whole lot police can do about these types of scams because it is so hard to trace to the criminals. They are usually overseas in places like Nigeria and use cyber cafes to send out their scams. If anyone wants to read a really great book about this whole thing, read "419". It is fiction, but is based on the reality of internet scammers in Nigeria. It is fascinating and gripping from start to finish. I doubt anybody needs to panic about giving your address at this point, but if you do receive a cheque, take it to the police and under no circumstances should you cash it!!!

Looks like this scam is still on the move!! Just got this email the other day. I wish I had read this form. Should have listened to my husband he totally thought this was very fishy. I'm in Ottawa so it is still making its rounds. To bad nothing can be done about this.

Hi!

I have now contacted the police who directed me to the Canadian office that deals with cases of fraud. At 10am Friday morning when I made my report, the person who was taking my statement said that this was the second reported case, with the exact same details, that was reported to her that day. The common link between me & the other Day Care Provider was that we both advertised on this site.

I'll give a quick description of the attempted fraud. A person named Cantin Moore contacted me via email to register her two boys in my Day Care. She said that they were Canadians who lived in Mexico for the last 3 years and were moving back within the next 2 weeks. I replied giving my telephone number. They had a funny way around how they didn't want to call, just to move forward with their children's registration process. Their English was poor. Yes, the situation was odd. They asked questions about expectations, food, and daily rate. I answered these questions and then they sent me a family photo. Everything was weird. My alarm bells went off when they said that they wanted my name and address to send me a cheque for 2 weeks worth of care, although I previously said that a $100 deposit would be fine.
This is when I wanted to talk to someone about this situation. The Fraud Centre gave me a few scenarios of how these people would proceed from here to get money from me. One way is by sending too much money to me and then saying to just cash the cheque and send back the amount that I do not require. Well, whatever someone sends them, would be unrecoverable. Also, the cheques they send are usually stolen and falsified.
I just wanted to put this out there so that no DC Providers would fall prey to them.

thank you for alerting us to this. I will send this message onto the admin

Hmmm it seems like this scam has also produced a sudden jump in new members this month?!?!

They definitely found all of you from your ads on daycarebear. I advertise with this site as well, but am full, so my listing is down at the moment. I did not receive the email.

I have also been receiving communications from this person. The last reply I sent was that if they contacted me again I would involve police. I received another email this morning

"Greetings,

So sorry for not getting back to you on time, we've been so busy with our relocation. I was contacted by my associate (Mariya Anderson) that the deposit payment has been mailed to you since 2 days ago, you should receive it before ending of this week or early next week.

Please confirm you receive this message and you're waiting for the payment, also let me know the moment you receive the payment, to be sure things are going as planned.

Important: I'm very sorry to inform you that we went to buy our flight tickets yesterday for my wife and kids but the earliest seats we got was January 6th. i know you won't be happy hearing this but we're as sad as you can be for not been able to make it over there on time as planned, but the most important is we got the tickets yesterday and 6th of January is intact.

Thanks "

Anyone who has had any emails like this please contact the fraud department at 1-888-495-8501

I received the same emails and gave my mailing information. I feel like a boob!
I was not asked for any help providing for his family (Andrea (wife), Konbri (2) and Harry(3 yrs 10 months))
I had the feeling it was very odd, but didn't want to disregard just in case. Asked them to call me, Got the reply of the issue with the phone card and calling times. I asked several questions, including for them to solidify a meeting date to sign contracts and these were all avoided. I saw it as an oversight by a desperately time pressed family.

How do we stop this??? Obviously the email he got was from here as my other listing has only my phone number. I looked at my listing and would like to know IF I make my email private/unavailable, can interested families still contact me?

I wish I had taken the time to google this guys name as THAT is how I found out about this scam this morning (while awaiting a deposit that was due to arrive yesterday despite my being insistent none was required until the contracts were signed)

If I can help anyone with information I may have, please contact me and I am happy to help out!