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    Unsupervised Neighbourhood Kids

    Good day all! I need some help & advice on how to address an ongoing issue.

    So where I live (Manitoba) I am only allowed a max of 4 children under 12 in my care at once, & I am very strict about following this rule & take my job quite seriously. I have been having issues with neighbourhood kids on my block coming to hangout on our property when they see us out.

    Since my neighbourhood is fairly new (my house is the oldest one on my block & its 2 years old), so I donít have my own personal backyard set up just yet so we are limited to playing in the front where weíre clearly visible. Most of my neighbours arenít very good with their English, & most of the neighbourhood children that I am having issues with are cared for by their grandmas who speak almost no English. Lately when weíre outside thereís certain children who flock to my driveway to come & join my daycare kids & my daughter & itís been really bothering me because they are almost always unsupervised & when their grandma sees me come outside they go back in. The other day one of the boys whoís older than my group but not quite FT school age yet was driving in my driveway with his bike & I panicked when he almost ran over one of my daycare kids & when I asked him to leave he didnít seem to understand what I was saying, & we came inside afterwards. Another day I caught him trying to rip the toys out of one of my DCGís hands that she was playing with & I of course handled that situation but I donít think heís understanding me or getting the message because he keeps coming back.

    Normally I would just very friendly explain to the parents the situation & that would be it, but the no English speaking thing has me puzzled. I should add that my husband is the same ethnicity as our neighbours so Iím wondering if they think itís ok & are too comfortable with it because thatís what they do in their culture, they are always willing & able to care for their friends & familyís children whenever without having a problem with it. Thereís also only about 7 of the 20 houses on my small block that are all VERY good friends with each other so I know that if I try to address this I will become the b***h of my block & maintaining good relationships with my neighbours is important to me. Also, in the afternoons is when we play on my property, & the mornings are when we take our walks & park trips since pick up times vary from 3pm-Closing so park in the afternoon isnít feasible.

    Any advice on how to handle this? I know that it has to be addressed, even if I end up ruining any potential good relationships from this, as my DCKís safety is #1 priority.

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    Since you are wary of communicating the issue (even if you could get past the language barrier) for concern about how this will affect your relationship, then your only option is not to be out there. Totally sucks but based on all comments you've made, you are going to lose something regardless of what way you tackle it.

    1. Carry on as is knowing it's an issue with ratios.

    2. Stop going onto the front of your property where others see it as an invitation to join you unless you are willing to confront the problem. Remember, your neighbors likely have no idea it's a business and there are rules about numbers. They likely think you are a larger than average size family. Get a stroller and go for a walk somewhere. At least you'll have the outside time without all the extras.

    3. Find a google translate tool of some type and write up a letter, explaining the situation. Let them know you aren't being mean however the provincial regulations restrict you by property and the presence of their children during business hours risks your business being closed down. Maybe invite them over to meet socially over the weekend and start building a relationship with them so they can see you aren't being a b***h.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie_Homemaker View Post
    3. Find a google translate tool of some type and write up a letter, explaining the situation. Let them know you aren't being mean however the provincial regulations restrict you by property and the presence of their children during business hours risks your business being closed down. Maybe invite them over to meet socially over the weekend and start building a relationship with them so they can see you aren't being a b***h.
    Thank you Suzie. This seems like the only option I have at this point. I do know that they are aware that I am running a daycare because one time we were invited to a birthday party that another neighbourhood family attended (a family that is also good friends with the family mentioned in my post) & their older girl was translating for her grandma asking how I like running my daycare & if I have any openings soon & also telling me that her & our neighbours like seeing us play outside because we “don’t have enough small children” on the block, they’re all school age children.

    I also don’t want to have to limit our outdoor time that we spend in the front, since it’s the only available space we have to play on & to leave my property would mean a parent comes for pick up while nobody is here. The kids really love being out in the front, their imaginations run wild out there since it is mostly just mud (no grass yet).
    Last edited by One&Only; 05-09-2019 at 01:57 PM.

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    My son just make one other suggestion - fence it. Even if it's a white low picket fence, create some barrier so it is more of intentional action for them to open gate and come onto property.

    People don't understand there are rules about ratios in day homes which still apply outside. Or they don't realize that even if they stayed with their child, you would have an issue with them being present. Plus, sadly, they forget you are actually working. Unless you spell it all out, fencing might be your only option.

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    Hi,

    It must be hard to deal with that kind of situation. I strongly support the idea of a temporary front yard fence. But also, I was wondering if the government has a translation of a homedaycare general rules such as ratios etc. Many government information docs. Are translated and published in many languages.

    If the people living around there has certain English language barriers there has to be information in their language (otherwise I wonder, how they did their legal papers to stay and live in Canada?)

    Anyway, if you can get that translation printed you could always blame the "government Homedaycare policies in canada" rather than making it look that this is your doing.

    And also you can post a time frame ie. 8 am to 5 pm. Daycare children only. And explain to the children and adults that you welcome their visit after 5:00 pm or weekends.

    If you're dealing with children they most likely know English. Just be friendly and tell them to comeback later after 5pm or on the weekends they learn quick. Also you can invite the adults to join you when you're st the park or public areas.

    Currently, you have an absolutely dangerous situation in your hands. 1. It is illegal to have many children in your property, 2. You can loose your insurance (read their policies) if anything happens in your property with paying clients or none you are responsible and liable.

    Sometimes we are just pushed to make those though decisions. You're absolutely risking much moRe than "friendship" (in my view). And if they're really such good friends I'm sure they'll understand.

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    I think liability wise, you have to create a physical barrier in the front yard, as suggested by others.
    I made a cheap wooden barrier off the end of my raised patio in the backyard out of old( free) skids/pallets that people were throwing away.
    Even some stakes in the ground wrapped with yellow caution tape might give a visual barrier.
    Perhaps put a big red “stop” sign on the fence, as I’m sure they’d recognize the significance of the universal symbol.
    The liability is too risky if something happens while over ratio.

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