i am sorry you think i am coming off with attidute but in no way do i mean to be. i am just stating what we do in our daycare. If you work in a daycare in alberta and you are accredited you have standards to keep in order to keep your accreitation. So not only do we have licencing standards we also have accred standards to do. and in the toddler room we have 12 kids and 2 staff so we have just as many kids as a dayhome if you do the ratio. once again i am sorry you think i am coming off with attitude. I did not relize this forum was only for dayhomes as it is daycare bear and sometimes the easiest road is not the best road. we had a very hard time when accred came in and required us to let the children self serve but with months of practise the children can now do it.