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    Quote Originally Posted by lunademiel View Post
    The mom is mostly just worried that the child is not getting enough nutrition because she's always too busy to eat and her teeth/gums have been bothering her so she feels this is the only way she'll get enough nutrition. I think I'll just reassure her that the power of social eating will encourage her to eat when the other children eat that she'll end up eating enough. And also tell her that it's up to her wether she wants to wean her from the the bottle in bed before she starts daycare or when she starts because I won't put her to bed with a bottle. She's aware that my wait list is a long one so she can decide if the power struggle is worth it or not. I need her to respect me and my day home.
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    If she's worried about the nutrition, the child can still have the bottle before naptime, just not in bed. Why not give it to her after lunch? I don't see how that should be an issue.

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    I think it`s just a bad habit and I don`t allow it. Luckily it hasn`t been a problem as of yet...noone`s asked me to. If it were to happen I`d hope that the parents would be on board to break a bad habit the earliest possible. If not, I would still not allow. They`re smart and understand what is acceptable at home and at daycare. Some parents rock their kids to sleep, I simply place them down and won`t do more. They get used to it, even if the parents continue to put their kids to sleep at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kangaroomama View Post
    If she's worried about the nutrition, the child can still have the bottle before naptime, just not in bed. Why not give it to her after lunch? I don't see how that should be an issue.
    Apparently she's a busy little one who doesn't want to sit and eat/drink!

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    I ended up explaining to mom that she'll see the others eating and will eat herself. Kids won't starve themselves and will become more flexible when hungry. And it's her choice if she wants to wean her now from the bottle in bed or when she starts daycare. So if she continues to argue the fact I may take others advice and state "my daycare, my rules, my policies are non-negotiable". Then she can decide if she wants to send her child to me

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    Late weighing in here and so much great advice already.

    I thought I was queen of the anal policy manual for my business but I am another one who does not have a 'formal written policy' around bottles IN bed because there is so much public health education both online and in Dr offices, dentist offices, parenting magazines and well so many other venues that this is not a SAFE practice ... my own policy is that parents have to supply any bottles and bottle contents be it breastmilk, formula or normal milk ... cause I find that helps for them to be more 'on board' to moving to a cup soon after a year cause I provide the cup contents and as others said I find in group care kids 'wean off' things much faster cause they want to be big like the older kids .... I had a child last year join the group at 10 months still sending 4 eight ounce bottles a day - within 2 months he was eating our full menu save the 'standard do not offer til over a year' foods and consuming all liquids via a sipper cup every few weeks i would just send home one more 'untouched' bottle and explain to clients 'he was not showing interest in this one' until we were down to 1 bottle which kept going home for a few days cause mom would send it 'just in case he wanted it' but eventually she stopped cause he honestly did not ASK for a bottle here, was happy to take a sipper cup and preferred FOOD dude had a serious appetite for solids and I think had a milk allergy cause he got way happier on 'less milk'

    If I have wee infants still on bottles in care they get their bottle 'before' being transferred to bed either holding it on their own sitting up or if they are too tiny to hold it or if i can offer the 'comfort time' I will snuggle them with it but so they are on the angle to protect it from running into ears and if they start to fall asleep with it I pull it away which usually wakes them up a bit to ensure they swallow everything before transferring them into their crib for sleep.

    Once children are old enough to be eating solid foods and getting their calories and nutrients from that I help parents to see the 'benefit' of weaning off the daytime bottles onto a 'cup' and learning to self soothe to sleep without the bottle.

    If I had a parent who was 'insisting' on their child having a bottle IN bed I would have to tell them that unfortunately that request is a DEAL BREAKER because it is a liability issue and I am not willing to put myself in a position of liability to meet a parents 'practice at home' ... the bottom line is that this is YOUR BUSINESS and while these are the clients children and they have total say in what they WANT you have the FINAL SAY in what SERVICE YOU OFFER and if they do not like that they keep looking until they find someone willing to offer everything they want .... so refusing to do this for them is not you BAILING on them it is them CHOOSING to accept what you offer or keep looking instead
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    Sorry, I meant to add to my post, little man woke up, I got distracted, didnt make it back before I forgot to continue. I've also not had a chance to read all the posts... I want to get this in before he wakes again... feeding on demand... and boy is he demanding! LOL!

    I've never had anyone ask me to give their kids a bottle to sleep. Not sure what I'd do if a mom insisted... I'd make sure she was aware of why its not recommended. I'd probably not allow it (besides the decay thing) b/c I wouldnt want formula/milk leaking out of the bottle and into the playpen and going sour.

    As far as my own kids, they were/are all breastfed so there was/is nothing I can do to stop them from going to sleep at the breast. And admittedly, if I cant get the little one to go to sleep... I resort to nursing him! Once I went to a bottle, I'd have a 2nd bottle of water that I would give them after they were finished, and even if they only got 1 or 2 pulls on it before passing out completely, at least it would act to cleanse their teeth a bit. And then I eventually switched their routine, to bottle before going to get ready for bed including brushing their teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilac View Post
    ....As far as my own kids, they were/are all breastfed so there was/is nothing I can do to stop them from going to sleep at the breast. And admittedly, if I cant get the little one to go to sleep... I resort to nursing him! ....
    I would do the same thing. IMO breastmilk is 'natural' to the human body and since the dawn of time children have been nursed to sleep with it and we evolved to have healthy teeth .... IMU breast milk does not cause the same issues as 'formula and cows milk' which are not natural to US ... formula is man made and full of sugars to make it taste palatable and cows milk is meant for well BABY COWS and therefore humans do not digest it in the same manner and it breaks down into a higher form of sugar in our bodies and in our mouths as a result ... in reality we are the only mammals on earth who consume the breast milk of other animals for nutrition mostly because we CAN not sure if a cow would lie still for a fox cub to come up and suckle its teat

    Any way my point with breast feeding is that the human nipple does not continue to leak into their mouth as they fall asleep - as the start to fall asleep they suck less and less intensely and can than swallow what is in their mouth as the less they suck your flow of breast milk 'stops' and they are just suckling for comfort that last little bit before unlatching .... the challenge with a BOTTLE specially IN BED is that the milk or formula continues to LEAK into their mouth long after they fall asleep you do not need to SUCK on most bottles to get the liquid out you just turn it upside down and out it slowly comes ... so more likely to stay in mouth, on gums and form the plague that causes tooth issues, more likely to cause the choking issue and more likely to drip down into their ears and so forth.
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    Very good points... and this is coming from a mom who (don't throw rocks at me!!) got into this AWFUL habit with my first 3 kiddos, especially the older two. I am determined NOT to do it with my last baby. Even back then, I didn't like it, but I was admittedly a lazy bedtime parent. *shame*

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