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I do the same if it falls on a day that would be a holiday. But what about people who are part time who are in care different days every week. ( hope you don't mind adding this question)
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 Originally Posted by little rascals
I do the same if it falls on a day that would be a holiday. But what about people who are part time who are in care different days every week. ( hope you don't mind adding this question)
If it lands on their day that week, then they pay!
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Euphoric !
 Originally Posted by little rascals
I do the same if it falls on a day that would be a holiday. But what about people who are part time who are in care different days every week. ( hope you don't mind adding this question)
I do not offer 'flex care' myself where they can move their days around - however I have peers who offer this service and they charge even 'more' for flex care than for regular part time that is consistent - so they factor in the loss of stat pay days there as well by offering that service cause clients will not choose to 'schedule' a stat day of course and choose other days instead
Children construct their own intelligence. The adult must provide activities and context, but most of all must be able to listen. Children need proof that adults believe in them. Their three great desires are to be listened to, to understand, and to demonstrate that they are exactly what we expect."
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My part time families that don't normally come on a Monday pay for 5 of my 10 Stat days as I consider those part of my paid vacation. They pay for Good Friday, Canada Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas Day, New Year's Day. But they do not get care on any of the other days either nor compensated.
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The Easter Monday is listed right in my contract and before the holiday I send out a newsletter reminder about 4 weeks in advance reminding parents I am closed Easter Friday and Monday and that they are paid stat days.
Never have heard a peep or complaint from a parent about it. Half my parents are off that day and half aren't and take it off as a vacay day. Most daycare providers in my neighbourhood take it as a paid day off (that I have talked to).
Oh and of course the Good Friday and Easter Monday stats only apply to parents who would have been scheduled for those days
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I call my list of 'stat' days - Closed Daycare Paid Holidays - in my contract and they are listed and it states that if the day falls on the weekend the following business day is taken in lieu of the actual date.. For instance next month July 1st falls on Sunday so I'm closed on Monday. Also, in my newsletters I have important dates listed and this reminds the parents of any upcoming holidays I am closed.
The parents have it all listed on the contract so they can book off any days they don't have as holidays with their employers. I have one Mom who works for the Federal government so she doesn't get Family Day but I take it off, then she gets Remembrance Day off, but I don't take that one off. You just do your best to inform the parents and then they have to deal with booking their days off.
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I am one of those that does have Remembrance day listed in my list of closed days because my hubby is military and some years he was on parade and the family attended so I am closed to give me the freedom to do what I want that day. I also have Easter monday in my list of closed days with the idea that after a long winter I deserve a long weekend. We are either heavily involved in church activities because of sunday school and choir or we take the opportunity of no snowy weather to travel to visit the grandparents and for that need the extra day to make it worth while. This started before family day ever existed so I just added that one to my contract.
Now having said that if I have parents that I know do not get those three days off and I have no major plans for the day I will sometimes accept those children into care for half the daily rate extra but they are cared for - food, nap, diapers, but no programming so basically they are just hanging out here.
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 Originally Posted by Inspired by Reggio
I do not offer 'flex care' myself where they can move their days around - however I have peers who offer this service and they charge even 'more' for flex care than for regular part time that is consistent - so they factor in the loss of stat pay days there as well by offering that service cause clients will not choose to 'schedule' a stat day of course and choose other days instead 
This is where I feel at a lose because they simply do not select that day so never get the stat pay for it. I charge the same rate but maybe I should change that. Thanks
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 Originally Posted by little rascals
This is where I feel at a lose because they simply do not select that day so never get the stat pay for it. I charge the same rate but maybe I should change that. Thanks
I look ate setting fees this way .... the government regardless of your province caps our income at X the amount of children we are allowed to have under their rules so in Ontario that is 5 other provinces vary! If I need to make Y amount of income at the end of the year after my projected expenses the easiest way for me to set my fees is to divide Y by 5 to determine the annual revenue I need from each of my allowable clients ... I than take that number and divide it to determine my FULL TIME RATE which is the easiest and most secure form of income.
Now if I can going to offer PART TIME services to clients that puts my projected income at RISK because chances are I will no longer be 'full' if I cannot find someone to offset their noncare days and therefore I charge MORE for that service because IMO it is a PREMIUM service and I need to ensure that set my fees to ensure that I am viable so if offering a service poses a risk your fees for that service should reflect that and make 'up' for it so to speak.
Offering FLEX TIME where a client is occupying a full time space because their days change and fluctuate each week makes it VERY hard to find another client to offset that space and keep my income full and as a result I do not even offer this as an option because my current business plan and budget is based on being FULL everyday and this style of care prohibits that .... but if I did I would still charge MORE than my full time or part time rate for this service because it is not just premium service that part time is - it is PLATINUM service that they are asking for and needing ... expecting a service provider to forgo the security of an income of a full time client for the commitment of serving them a few times a month at their beck and call to when they 'need' the space and only wanting to pay for the days used!
Think if it using this anaolgy to explain to clients .... if you needed access to accommodations and wanted to ensure it was 'therefore you' when needed on a moments notice you have two choices .... you can rent an apartment and you pay for that apartment space regardless of use and it might cost you $800 a month or $26.66 a night and if your routine use of it is 'consistent' you might be able to find someone to 'share' that space with some nights but you'd likely charge them a bit more per night cause you'd have to change your sheets more and so forth ..... however if some months you might only need less than $800 worth of stays and you only want to pay for the nights you need your option is to rent a HOTEL where you are going to pay a PLATINUM RATE of between $85 - 150 a night depending on the 'quality' of extra services provided ... in the daycare world this is FLEX CARE
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Little rascals .... I had a flex care family once and even though they were taking a full spot they only wanted to pay for the days in care so our compromise was that they pay for all stats and my holidays in full regardless of what days they normally would have come.... So for instance if labour day was not going to be a care day ( and I had all shifts for the year as it was rotation) they paid for it in addition to the regular days in care so for the tear I got an extra 21 days pay at the higher part time rate.
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