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    Ya that is a tough one for sure ... I am generally one for 'consistency = success but well in this case there is success despite the inconsistency .

    Personally if the child is showing interest and success in the program I would not force him back into the diaper for program either ... that would be like refusing to allow a toddler 'solids' in the program when they were asking for them and able to manage them because at home he turns his nose up at the parents cooking and will only eat 'baby food'!

    I would just explain to the parent that sometimes it is normal to want to be like the other kids in the group but at home to go back to what is comfortable and easy - this is why some kids talk more in program, engage in more self directed play, willing to write their name and so forth or a in this case want to pee on the potty verses the diaper and it is your role to ENCOURAGE their independence ... however if they do not want to push training at home that is cool and you respect that but that in the program you do not want to DISCOURAGE it either and therefore if he is continuing to show interest and success for you that you need to be supporting him in that until the interest and success rolls over into home as well.
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    I would be asking mom to use pullups instead of diapers then you can do whatever you want at daycare. Tell her you will keep working with him at daycare because he is learning to follow what his friends do and the more he gets used to it the sooner he will start doing it at home when his friends aren't there. That makes it sound like it has nothing to do with you but all about him and his friends - as in mom is not at fault. That should please both of you, and yes you can teach him that we do not pee in our pullup at daycare. I train only using pullups until they are well trained before we do underwear. Just not worth my trouble to clean up underwear messes.

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    I've always found that kids know that Pull-Ups are just glorified diapers. They can pee in them, so they do. They've never worked for me. I use them to go out or naps. How do you get them to not pee in a Pull-Up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcj View Post
    I've always found that kids know that Pull-Ups are just glorified diapers. They can pee in them, so they do. They've never worked for me. I use them to go out or naps. How do you get them to not pee in a Pull-Up?
    I agree ... I only like them as a 'containment unit' overtop of underwear during that 'last' stage of training where they are in underwear but still having the odd accident so I do not get pee all over my furniture or carpets or carseats.
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    The trick is not to make the switch too soon. Start training using diapers and just putting them on at strategic times when you would normally change diapers. Once they get the hang of going on the potty, are staying dry several hours ....all the usual signs then you make the switch. Do not call a pullup a diaper. Sometimes call them diaper pants vice underpants. They usually have a character on them and we do not pee on Dora or Thomas or whoever. I put them back into a diaper for outside, outings, naptime because we are not responsible if we pee while we are sleeping or not near a bathroom but when we are awake we are in our pullup and expected to pee.

    Have the parents put a pullup on before coming with a happy face drawn on it in sharpie marker. They get a special treat from parents when they get home if they go home with the same pullup. I do not give treats at daycare for peeing - it is just something we do because we are growing up as in they do it for themselves not for me.

    Yes it can take awhile doing it this way but I see no reason when pullups are available that I should have to deal with accidents at daycare. For the difference of a couple months if that it is so a more sanitary version. There is no magic age by which a child is supposed to be trained so I don't fret it anymore and it just happens naturally when the body and mind are ready and no matter what we do we can't make it happen any sooner just frustrate everyone.

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    Playfelt I love the happy face idea!

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    I don't understand how this affects mom and dad, really? Ok, so he's having accidents at home. They can deal with that how they choose. But if he is not having accidents at your home, then I would say what's the big issue with him being "potty trained" at your house?
    I agree that it sounds like he is using this as a control issue at home!!
    I don't think I would feel comfortable saying, "Too bad, I am going to keep doing what I think is best." or fibbing to the parents about what you are doing. I think you have to let mom and dad know what you are thinking, including "I find it difficult and un-necessary to change his poopy diapers when I know that he is willing and able to use the potty."
    And I find that parents often switch to pull-ups waaaaaay too soon, so yes, the child believes that they are just a new kind of diaper. We made wearing a pull-up a reward in itself, and used the same "Don't pee on Diego/Dora!" tactic. Pull ups are for AFTER the child has had experience using the potty, and has shown some success doing so.

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    I think you are amazing to have this little guy trained at 23 months at daycare! I have a little boy who turns 2 this month who has not shown any interest in the potty yet. The other ladies have provided all the great advice so I just wanted to pat you on the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momof4 View Post
    I think you are amazing to have this little guy trained at 23 months at daycare! I have a little boy who turns 2 this month who has not shown any interest in the potty yet. The other ladies have provided all the great advice so I just wanted to pat you on the back.
    ah, thanks Momof4. I can't take all the credit....he was quick. Just shows how they all have different strengths...he's not the quickest in many other areas...he barely even talks at all! But apparently he understands this.

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    And that makes it even worse to ask him to stop the one thing he seems to be good at. As long as he asks to go potty or wants a turn to sit on the potty like the other kids then let him and I wouldn't tell mom. I often have kids starting to train here before home because I let them "try" if they want to. When I think they can I will ask them if they want a turn and if they say yes we do. It is all about learning what to do - just like they say to let a child sit on the potty seat with their clothes on to get used to it - not that I agree with that but not everything we do at daycare gets told to parents. There would be absolutely no pressure if child said no they didn't want to.

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