Rates

[Crayola kiddies]

I am in an Ottawa suburb, the going rate here is 45-50 a day . I charge 48.50 and it is for the spot, I don't really do part time etc....

Wow .... Your in barrhaven???? I'm just outside of barrhaven and I'm 40/day ..... I didn't realize you could get that kind of cash there ..... Yay for you hopefully it'll start going up in this direction. ; )

[Play and Learn]

ECE53:
I am in an Ottawa suburb, the going rate here is 45-50 a day . I charge 48.50 and it is for the spot, I don't really do part time etc....

Wow .... Your in barrhaven???? I'm just outside of barrhaven and I'm 40/day ..... I didn't realize you could get that kind of cash there ..... Yay for you hopefully it'll start going up in this direction. ; )

Yea, I'm going to guess you're in Stonebridge....or one of the more pricey areas of Barfhaven! lol My nephew goes to one in Stonebridge, and they pay her $42 or 43 a day.

[jec]

It amazes me the difference between some parents. I often ask myself why some families even chose to have children because when I meet with them I get the impression that they just can't be bothered with their kids...and then I meet with some on the flip side who are almost to the point of obsessed with their child...

We do meet all types in this business don't we! I always go with my 'Spider sense' and if I get the twinge that something isn't right..I always listen

[Monday 2 Friday Mama]

Ummmmm
Seems I might have to change my full time only position

My daycare provider when we had our 2 in her daycare must have LOVED us! I paid full fee when we had our second to ensure we didn't lose our spot and I was on mat leave ( and she only went once or twise a week to keep her in routine) Never got a change of rate for having 2 her in her care. If one of our girls had a sniff, I came and picked her/them up.
I understand not wanting to have to pay for a spot when your home and not working but as someone who did pay as my husband also had Friday's off and she never went .....so they only went Mon-Thurs and we paid full fee and full to hold her spot while on mat leave.
Guess we were the dumb ones...but no regrets as she was wonderful but ouch on the pocket book.

Guess...need to change my way of thinking. What we did doesn't mean everyone else is going to....

@ jec - hi there, I'm a caregiver located in Ottawa. I'm not sure what the industry norms are in your area, but you shouldn't feel that you got a raw deal. Quite the oppostite actually. I think your caregiver was very fair with you. It's almost impossible financially for a caregiver to hold a spot for someone for an entire year. (you're looking at over 10,000 lost income) I've been asked about this by families and I just can't do it. I certainly encourage parents to contact me when they are ready to return to work, and if I have a space available I'm more than happy to welcome them back, but I simply cannot leave a space open for an entire year. The other risk with keeping spots empty for families who are home on mat leave is that frequently Mum's will change their mind about going back to work - then I'm left scrambling to fill a space. While I appreciate the need for families to have a "back up" plan it doesn't make planning easier for me. Not good ! As far as your wish for a "family discount" goes....again I've been asked about this one and I try to explain it to parents this way: both children are going to eat lunch, participate in crafts and other special activities, and both children will require a playpen/crib/bedding to sleep in, as well as various other "stuff" no matter whether they are here 4 days or 5 days - hence why I cannot offer a reduced rate. I run an excellent program and it's absolutely beneficial for the babies to do all the neat things that I offer - however, these activites cost money and I cannot offer them if I don't have the financial fluidity to fund them. This logic can also can be applied to your desire for a reduced rate since your child was only attending daycare for four days a week. Under Ontario law caregivers can only care for a maximum of 5 children. If your little one is here for 80% of the time, I think we could both agree that it would be very hard to find a parent who only needs daycare for that one day each week when your child is not here. By giving you a discount you're saving 120 to 150 dollars a month - but it comes out of my bottom line. Again, it comes down to making sound business decisions - because while we love children, being a caregiver is a profession like any other and we need to make sure that we're making good economic decisions. One last thought, while it is lovely for parents to have both children in the same daycare, it can be perilous for the caregiver. If you leave their care, that caregiver has lost close to half of her income (assuming that she is caring for 5 children) It requires a lot of trust on the caregivers behalf to allow one individual that much influence/affect on their income. I personally prefer to spread my eggs out in different baskets.

[Crayola kiddies]

I'm in Ottawa and I'm 40/day full time I do charge more for part time but I don't have any part time kids right now, I have five full time.

[playfelt]

Just got the CCPRN newsletter with the results of the rates survey and what a variation from area to area as well as within some areas. Statistics are always skewed depending on how people interpret questions and what is included in the fees. In my area of Orleans the rates were $28-45 a day but I know one caregiver that charges $28 does school age kids so before and after but has them over lunch and considers that full days.

Right now I am at $37 a day but will be going to $40 for new families starting this summer. I have one space I will devote to part time as I also have a 4 day child which means 2 families could each have 3 days each as long as they both use Monday which is what I have now but will be losing both part timers. So have to decide to keep it for two or just fill with one and have an easier monday which is tempting but at the same time the three day rate is more than 3 x my daily rate so worth it to fill with two families.

[jec]

Seems that rates aren't all the same in each area...
I'm the only one posted in Daycare Bear for my area and I can only go by what other's have told me and it seems that everyone here is all over the board. I guess based on what they offer too in regards to playroom on main level/basement and activities etc....

[Inspired by Reggio]

Ya the rates here range from $20 - $45 a day for full time depending on the area of the city you live in, the program you are offering - aka the lower end tends to be your 'illegal' programs with the $20 a day with no receipts and to be able to actually make a living they are 'warehousing' which is the term we tend to call those who care for more than 5 children legal allowed and this is very common in some areas and parents do not 'complain' because the service is cheap and they see it as 'their choice' and the government should mind their business about regulations and so forth the high end people tend to be the ones that live in the area of town were property taxes are very HIGH and the homes are larger and therefore the cost of operating a program is higher.

I am mid range at $32 for full time and $35 for part time .... however that is for the same rate 52 weeks of year regardless of attendance or me being open as it includes paid stats, 10 paid days of vacation for me and 10 paid personal days each year for me so in reality if you are comparing me to those who do not 'charge' for days they are closed than I am $35 for full time and $38 for part time.

[jec]

'warehousing' which is the term we tend to call those who care for more than 5 children legal allowed and this is very common in some areas and parents do not 'complain' because the service is cheap and they see it as 'their choice'

I've never heard this term before! Yes, there are quite a few of them. When I closed my Brampton daycare one of the little ones that was in my care went to a provider that had over 10 kids in her home at once!!! That did not include the after and before school kids.
There is a provider who lives around me that my daycare family tells me that she has 10-15 kids and mix of full time/part time and before and after school kids.
Crazy

[Lou]

London, Ontario here and I charge $35/day whether they come full or part time. $30/day once they start J/K, $15/day for before and after school care and $10 for before OR after school care.