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Euphoric !
Ya - think the term warehousing comes from the concept that when you have that many children in order to make sure that they do not kill each other they end up sitting on couches and chairs lined up in front of the boob tube like 'crates on a shelf' from drop off to pick up ... warehoused until the parents can get back to pick them up!
Not that there are not awesome people out there who can offer an enriching program to that many children .... when i worked in centre care I would have 12 preschoolers on my own for the first two hours or last two hours of the day so I know I could MANAGE that many children but the level of program would be confined to 'warehousing' every child would be doing the SAME GROUP THING ... so we still did 'stuff' it was just 'contained stuff' aka they were ALL sitting engaged in some adult directed group thing .... story time, science experiment, coloring or fidget toys at a table and chairs cause you just do not have enough EYES to allow that many children to FREE PLAY and expect them to stay safe!
Children construct their own intelligence. The adult must provide activities and context, but most of all must be able to listen. Children need proof that adults believe in them. Their three great desires are to be listened to, to understand, and to demonstrate that they are exactly what we expect."
Loris Malaguzzi
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Thanks ladies ~ again I thank you for your time
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I'm in Toronto and my daily rate is $50-60 per day depending on how many hours you need. My half day rate is $30.
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 Originally Posted by Cadillac
I'm in Toronto and my daily rate is $50-60 per day depending on how many hours you need. My half day rate is $30.
Really!?! What area of Toronto if you don't mind me asking? My sister-in-law is starting to look for care for my nephew and they are in the Etobicoke area and the highest she's told me about was $40/day FT.
Satisfaction Guaranteed or Double Your Kids Back!! 
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Euphoric !
 Originally Posted by Mamma_Mia
Really!?! What area of Toronto if you don't mind me asking? My sister-in-law is starting to look for care for my nephew and they are in the Etobicoke area and the highest she's told me about was $40/day FT.
Etobicoke isn't Toronto proper. It's not on the subway route, and that will make a big difference for people looking for care who work downtown. In nearly all of Toronto, the going rate for home daycare is 50-60 per day. I am in the west end of downtown, and I charge $55 per day for full time, and $65 for part time. I've seen full time rates in my area as high as $70.
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I'm in the beaches area. Etobicko is the other side of the city. I've seen rates as high as $75 per day but I think that is completely ridiculous.
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I'm in London and I charge $30/day for full time and $33/day for part-time. In the fall when my contract renews I'm going up to $32/day full time and $35/day part-time and I'll probably stay at that rate for a few years. My main reason for keeping my rates low is that I rent an apartment and I don't have a fenced in yard, but we travel to parks all the time.
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Starting to feel at home...
Momof4, I am from your area, and your rates are not low. I'd say they are about average.
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 Originally Posted by daycaremum
Momof4, I am from your area, and your rates are not low. I'd say they are about average.
Well, there are the "babysitters" of course who charge $20/day and put the children in front of a tv all day, but most great quality caregivers in my city charge $35-$40/day. Thankfully, I've always had children who don't eat much so my food costs are under control and my utilities are included in my rent so my expenses are low. So I'm happy with my rates for now.
Frederick Douglass
It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.
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I'm in Winnipeg, Manitoba and I have a government funded and licensed home daycare so my rates are set by the government. I charge the parents $21.30 a day for infants (0 to 2 years old) and $17.30 a day for preschool age (2 to 5 years old) and $8.65 a day for before and after school. I do not provide lunch or snacks with this rate. I get an operating grant from the government on a quarterly basis to bump up the amount I get paid - gives me about another $450 a month.
People that run a private or unfunded home daycare here charge $30 a day, haven't seen anyone charge any more than that. It always includes lunch and snacks.
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