I feel guilty this evening. When I'm in it, I'm absolutely not giving in, and I think that's necessary when they're testing, but then after I feel I was too hard on them. But, I'd do it all over again. I know that I'm not doing anyone any favours if I give it. I think when it's my own kids, after they're still there, you have time to move on, do other things, hug, kiss.....when it's a dck, they're gone soon after and that's kind of how you end the day....I don't know...hard to explain.