Anyone will to share their contract?

[treeholm]

Wow, thank you so much. I used to teach entrepreneurship at the university, so I do understand the self-employed versus employed thing, but I wish I could remember where I saw that part about making sure you actually charge by enrolment and don't mention paid holidays.... you are so right, that could have been quite outdated, and I hadn't thought of that.
Don't know what I'd do without you guys... second in person interview scheduled for Monday. This is moving so quickly!
Diane

[treeholm]

I found it! It's from the child care providers resource centre in Ottawa. The link is:

http://www.ccprn.com/en/information-...or-caregivers/

"How many holidays can I take?
Caregivers are self-employed and therefore are not entitled to "paid sick time", or "paid vacation". To accommodate for this some caregivers charge more per day and bank the extra money for when they are sick or on holidays. Others use statements similar to the one below:

"Weekly fee for care is _____, totaling an annual amount of ______. Payment is expected for the agreed upon hours/days whether the child is in attendance or not. Payment will not vary due to statutory holidays, child’s illness or appointments or parent vacations. Fee will be negotiated if caregiver takes excess of ____days off annually."

Another term for this is being "paid by enrolment". The language is very important in case of an audit by Revenue Canada. If you are audited and your contract mentions "paid vacation" and "paid sick time", Revenue Canada can request the parents pay CPP and UI Benefits. Remember also, Revenue Canada can go back 6 years."

[Inspired by Reggio]

I found it! ... "How many holidays can I take?
Caregivers are self-employed and therefore are not entitled to "paid sick time", or "paid vacation"....

Ugggg .... no offence to CPPRN cause they are an awesome resource to providers but IMO entitled is a horrible word to use and it propagates the belief in clients hearing that come from a professional association

But yes this is true we are not 'entitled' under the Employment Standards Act for any of the protection of that act because we are self employed and because we ARE self employed IMO we are ENTITLED to negotiate anything we want into individual contracts with clients as long as the market will bare it and the client signs and agrees to the terms of payment for the service being offered under that contract

IMO that is just nit picking of potato and potatoe as for as wording is concerned and likely done more not for CRA concern over employed or self employed but to EDUCATE home childcare clients and to make it seem 'fairer' to those who are stuck in that ' we are not 'entitled' to stats holiday / vacation thinking themselves

This is why I have TWO payment options for clients .... one where they pay a much higher fee and do not pay for my closures but do if their child is sick/on vacation and another where they pay for the 'space' regardless and that included 10 stat closures, 10 vacation days, 10 paid personal days ~ if I go over those closures than I would 'credit' clients accordingly ... but I do define those 'days' so it is clear to clients later!

[treeholm]

And it sounds amazing, Momof4!

[treeholm]

I appreciate your input, and I agree with you. I do like the wording in that section though about payment not varying for weeks with stat holidays, and that is what I will go with for now. Yes, that does mean stat holidays are paid, but it doesn't call them paid holidays per se... hopefully that satisfies Revenue Canada... I probably seem a bit paranoid, but I'm a business professor in my other life... way too cautious when it comes to the authorities LOL I can't wait to have fun with little people instead of obsessing about the paperwork!

[Inspired by Reggio]

I hear ya ~ the wording from CPPRN about paying for space accomplishes the same goal for you ... your fee payments will be consistent regardless of a stat, sick day or vacation so you do not have to set aside the $$ yourself by charging more upfront and less during 'closed times' as you are getting 'paid' for them plus as you 'renew' contracts down the road you can add in more ' in excess of _____ days' for yourself and desired as a perk so not a specific 'raise' in income but more time off for yourself and family