littledragon, I also added after that (for me, its spanking and firm guidance toward my children) for others it may be a firm talking or whatnot.

I just believe very strongly in standing up for what I believe in as do all the others here. I respect all points of view and ALL parenting skills, I was just standing up for what I believe def not stating that anyone else is incorrect in their choice of parenting.

Maybe the opinions have gone a little far aggression anger frustration or any other negative emotion should never come into play when disciplining a child, as I stated earlier. When my children have done wrong (like really wrong, in the past) i.e. stealing something, talking inapropriate, or acting disrespectful among others, they are asked to go to their room, we talk about it, they get a spanking and its over. for me it works. thats all! sometimes a spank will wake a child from a "massive fit" or "verbal rank" they just need a reminder sometimes.

Very sensitive subject because there is a VERY fine line between discipline and abuse.