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    Parent requesting refund - What should I do?

    Hi,

    I recently terminated a child and gave a months notice. The mom calls me this morning and says that they will only use care until the 17th which is 2 weeks from when I sent them notice of termination and that she will need me to refund the remainder of the month.

    My way of thinking is that if you do not use the full notice period I provide than that is your option however you will not recieve a refund. Care is available until the full notice period is over. The only hang up is in my contract I stipulate that I must give a minimum of 2 weeks notice and in this case I gave a full month. I don't need the money but I don't feel I should have to refund it.

    She asked this morning to shorten the notice period to 2 weeks from date of the letter I sent her but that is 9 days from now. Not exactly long enough time to fill the spot. I also stipulate that parents need to provide me with a minimum of 2 weeks notice, otherwise fees are still payable that month in full. I think she's now giving me less than what the contract stipulates. Or am I just being a bit picky/bitchy? I'm in a bit of a mood this morning and have been known to be a little cranky with people when that happens lol.

    What would you do? The mom wants me to call her back within 2 hours to discuss this.
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    First off, I would call her back on your terms.... or if it were myself I would go out of my way to not call her in the time frame she requested.

    Secondly, you are in the right. Your contract said a minimum of two weeks and you decided to give a month. I would tell her no and not make a conversation out of it as there is nothing to discuss.

    I hope this all works out for you. This is a crummy situation! Good luck

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    Technically, you should as it states in your contract that you and I assume your client too give 2 weeks notice.

    Personally, I wouldn't as she is not being fair to you. She probably thinks that you weren't fair to her by terminating.

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    If your contract states that she needs to give you 2 weeks notice to leave, then allow her to stand by that, which would be when SHE gives you notice. so if this was today she called you, then 2 weeks from today, the 22nd. I think this is meeting in a middle point and she won't haver a leg to stand on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingstonMom View Post
    If your contract states that she needs to give you 2 weeks notice to leave, then allow her to stand by that, which would be when SHE gives you notice. so if this was today she called you, then 2 weeks from today, the 22nd. I think this is meeting in a middle point and she won't haver a leg to stand on.
    I agree ~ basically you went above and beyond in your notice which was generous ~ however she does not have to accept the 'extra' notice and can turn around and stick to the 'minimum requirement' as per your contract of two weeks ... so I would just cut my losses and accept that rather than trying to 'force' her to accept extra care.

    I cannot remember what the circumstance was for the termination of the contract but am making the assumption that it was because either the child or the client was not a match for the program for some reason ~ this is such a hard thing in this business because I can see both sides of provider initiated termination ..... as a 'provider' working with a client that is taking away from the group is well not 'best' for the group so termination is the only option but at same time we do not want to be out income by terminating without notice but as a client I cannot imagine SENDING my child for a notice period if the relationship was not 'working' and that is why it was ending ~ its one thing if you are 'closing' and all the clients got notice but when someone just doesn't want to serve 'you' that has got to be a hard thing to swallow having to continue to drop your child off in the morning or to pay them

    I have not had to terminate any clients since being home but I know in centre care we always just refunded the security deposit in lieu of notice if we just wanted them GONE and I think I would do the same thing at home if a situation ever arose where I just did not think a continued service relationship was in the best interest of the program.
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    I don't think your being a bitch- I think your just frustrated that I'm guessing you gave a month to help them find care and then turn around and not return the favor. Reason why you should keep things professional and by your contract....I learned the hard way too
    I agree with the ladies- if it's in your contract then you need to follow it. Just end it as I think Cocoon is right, she probably doesn't think it's fair that you terminated and she might start getting more nasty
    Good luck

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    Yeah, if your contract says 2 wks, I would give her back the money. Sucks, but she just gave you notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphaghetti View Post
    Yeah, if your contract says 2 wks, I would give her back the money. Sucks, but she just gave you notice.
    Even though she terminated care FIRST? lol I'm just asking....

    It's like telling an employee "you're fired" and they reply with "I quit" uhhhh that's nice I still fired you? LOL no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamma_Mia View Post
    Even though she terminated care FIRST? lol I'm just asking....

    It's like telling an employee "you're fired" and they reply with "I quit" uhhhh that's nice I still fired you? LOL no?
    LOL ~ I have had people do this when I worked as a Director in Centre which was kinda stupid because we always paid them out the two weeks notice period even if we had 'cause' cause it was just easier than dealing with potential wrongful dismissal suits which would cost you more in time and effort plus if they are 'let go' they eligible for EI ~ if you QUIT a job effective immediately you are not entitled to the two weeks of notice pay and unless they changed it again you cannot get EI anymore unless you can 'prove' that you left the job for medical qualified reasons .... so it is better to be 'fired' :roll:
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    If your contract states two weeks notice is due then she owes you fees up to, and including, the 22nd of August. I also have a line in my contract that states that once fees are paid there is NO refund for ANY reason.

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