Single mothers

[playfelt]

It is an important piece of information as far as daycare goes because it indicates less flexibility. There is no one else to share the drop offs and pickups so if they are late they are late.

That does not mean that it is the most important piece of info to be given in every transaction. Whether you are single, in a same sex relationship, married or living with your parents has nothing to do with whether you wish to purchase what is being offered for sale. The only reason to divulge such information is to garner sympathy in my opinion and that is what the OP was objecting to. I belong to our local freecycle group and no matter what I offer there is a flood of oh woe is me and my lot in life please give me what you have to offer cause I deserve it and I so dislike those pleas. I am the parent of a child with special needs and know that I could use that to get stuff I want to cause that kind of information does get people to at least consider me but I won't do it.

I think too that if the offer had been reasonable the information could have been useful rather than an excuse for bad manners. Offering someone that low a figure is like a single mom coming to us and saying I am single and can only pay $10 a day for my two kids and then being miffed when we send them on their way.

I get the sense from the posts that we are getting a few emotions and feelings mixed up. This was about selling something and someone trying to get it for a steal literally - maybe even to resell themselves for money which I have again seen from my freecycle group. OP has the right to be upset for the lady even bothering to take up her time.

[Crayola kiddies]

Yes playfelt I agree with you in the sense that this "single mother" felt an entitlement because of that status. I too see the ads on kijiji saying single mom looking for free clothes gap, carters, and children's place only Please and can you deliver it too . I just shake my head thinking my kids don't wear that stuff .... I think it was insulting offering $100 for a $450 item. As the OP said there are other less expensive Strollers available that would be within her budget. Does thus woman call the hydro company and say I'm a single mother so I can only pay half of the set price for each kwh ... No the price is the price .... Seriously I was a single mother at one point too but I didn't wear it on my head like a crown..... another thing I have noticed is young girls having children .... I know a pair of sisters whom within 15 months of each other moved in with their boyfriends got pregnant had the child and by the time the baby was three months old kicked out the dad and went on welfare ... Now these girls are second generation welfare users and know they get a ton of money from the government cause they are "single mothers". One of these girls is back with the dad but he doesn't live with her cause she doesn't want
to jepordize her money ...... One Facebook post by her sickened me .... It was nearing Christmas and her post said "was going to go Xmas shopping today but the government screwed me again they were supposed to change my marital status but didn't so I didn't get as much money as I was supposed to " ... I'm sorry this girl works full time and made the decision to have a child why does the government owe her ??????

Sorry rant over ;(

[Cocoon]

I was going to explain again for the ones who don't understand my post but changed my mind. I'm glad to see that most of us can understand where I'm coming from. And to the ladies who are offended by my post. I can only say you shouldn't IF you weren't the type of those "single moms" I personally wouldn't if I wasn't a manupulating, pity minded sempaty seeker single mom.

And regarding me looking at her Facebook. Darling, I did not invade her privacy it was there, open. It's not like I went my way to break her password and got on her Facebook account. And please, don't tell me that you don't look at other peoples Facebook. And to be honest, I'm glad I did, otherwise how would I know about this poor, helpless(sarcasm) single mom

Crayola, I have seen those ads too. It makes me wonder if there are people who help them. Give them what they want? Some people!

[Inspired by Reggio]

I.... And please, don't tell me that you don't look at other peoples Facebook!

I will be honest I do this with perspective clients before booking an interview ~ the minute I have an email address and full name I 'google them' to see what pops up and make sure they are indeed 'clients seeking care' and not some whacko trying to get info on when I am home or not home to rob me or whatever!

Plus well if their FB is public or any other info is public than I am free to use that information in my decision making process

As for using your parental status or employment status or what not to get 'deals' on things ~ everything comes back to FAMILY BUDGETING in life .... same with people who claim they cannot 'afford' childcare but drive a nice fancy car, have cellphones, tattoos, family vacations and other things they have figured out a way to 'budget for' and now have nothing left for 'childcare' .... IMO if you are truly 'poor' and in need of help you qualify for services through United Way and other agencies that are designed to HELP people who are truly in need!

I work hard for my family income, I budget carefully to afford the lifestyle we have and if I am asking $450 for a stroller that is because that is what I NEED to make selling it worth my while to meet my own family budget and if you cannot 'afford it' than look for a stroller withing your price range .... after all when I went looking for my van I did not go to the dealership and say 'hey I am a lowly home childcare provider who needs a brand new fully loaded van to transport my crew in safely but I cannot only afford to pay full price for it my budget is only $6000 so please give me a 'deal' cause I know you are rich and can afford to suck up the difference ... I bought a used van within my budget

[mimi]

I understood your post Cocoon and can be offended without being labeled by your sterotype. I stand by my post.

[Crayola kiddies]

Cocoon ..... I helped one of those hard done by moms once and offered her free clothes as she stood in my house holding the box she mentioned she was a nurse at one of out hospitals here in eastern Ontario .... I just about grabbed the box out if her hands .... Never again.

I know of another" single mom" and she is defrauding the welfare system cause CSA took her child away from her and she has gotten her new landlord to write a letter to say she is raising her child as a single mom to the welfare office and so she gets extra money each month for the child she doesn't even have as well as
the child tax credit and that other one where you get $100/month for each child under 6. She has been ratted out on. Hope she
gets a hefty fine and kicked off the system. I hope the courts give her little to no access to her kid also. She's a lousy mother. People like that make me sick. I think too much is being handed out by out government and I think if people had to look after
themselves and their children without all the handouts they would be thinking twice about whether to bring a child into this world ..... I have five kids and worked to make money to raise them

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Crayola, I have seen those ads too. It makes me wonder if there are people who help them. Give them what they want? Some people![/QUOTE]

[Toregone]

Cocoon ..... I helped one of those hard done by moms once and offered her free clothes as she stood in my house holding the box she mentioned she was a nurse at one of out hospitals here in eastern Ontario .... I just about grabbed the box out if her hands .... Never again.

I know of another" single mom" and she is defrauding the welfare system cause CSA took her child away from her and she has gotten her new landlord to write a letter to say she is raising her child as a single mom to the welfare office and so she gets extra money each month for the child she doesn't even have as well as
the child tax credit and that other one where you get $100/month for each child under 6. She has been ratted out on. Hope she
gets a hefty fine and kicked off the system. I hope the courts give her little to no access to her kid also. She's a lousy mother. People like that make me sick. I think too much is being handed out by out government and I think if people had to look after
themselves and their children without all the handouts they would be thinking twice about whether to bring a child into this world ..... I have five kids and worked to make money to raise them

I know of people like this as well and it sickens me. Children are not a meal ticket. They are not to be used for money. I understand getting what you are entitled to but to defraud the system is not right. I know of several people that keep having more children so they gain additional welfare monies. One in particular has several children by several men and has admitted to lying to at least one of the men and saying she was on the pill when she was not.

Not everyone should be tarred with this brush but I will admit that there are reasons these stereotypes exist.

[Crayola kiddies]

Dream .... Those are the kind if people I hate .... I'm not sure how one person can get child support from different people for the same children ..... That just seems so wrong.

[mimi]

You do realize you are not talking about single moms now, but about fraudsters.......... ..there is a huge difference, please be able to seperate the two. Sometimes women make a mistake and find themselves as single Moms, they need the system to survive, we need to be there for them. There are many different aspects to the "single Mom" title. Lets be careful we do not paint everyone with the same brush PLEASE.

[dodge__driver11]

I was a single mom too-meaning my husband and I were living apart, and still "dating"and engaged when I was pregnant and for the first year after my son was born.

We made choices so that our boy could have things, we wanted him to look cute as this would be our only baby....... I wasn't one to be embarassed or shamed because I shopped at Sally Anne or Vallue Village stores...even once upon a child...People would always ask me "Where'd you get that?" Id say where and the jaw would drop, and most often I'd be finger wagged and told... I'd never dress my child in that!( Meaning no second hand for them)

I never wore a sign on my forehead saying that was the case nor did I expect anything from anyone as a result. I dressed my boy nice, and in name brand clothes, but guess what they were given to me... or I had no problem going to value village or the clearance rack to find them...We could not afford daycare at the time so you know what we did?? We alternated shifts so one of us could be home, and guess what we did not have the latest gadgets, fancy things or whatever.....