Hands Down pants!!!!!!!!!!?

[kidlove]

Thanks jec for your response, I will try daycarewhisperer's idea of the zipper footie pj's on backwards. thats a good idea.

[jec]

Thanks jec for your response, I will try daycarewhisperer's idea of the zipper footie pj's on backwards. thats a good idea.

We can all go back and forth on what is normal or not. I would still discuss with the parents if you feel it's something that is a concern. Good luck

[daycarewhisperer]

Thanks jec for your response, I will try daycarewhisperer's idea of the zipper footie pj's on backwards. thats a good idea.

Just remember..... if Mama aint happy then nobody is happy. Make Mama happy first. If Mama no likey then it's a no go. Your house your rules. We don't have to serve EVERY single aspect of childhood when they are under our roof. Even if it IS normal then this normal can be done somewhere else. You don't have to have any other opinion then you don't like it so it's a no. No fuss no muss. Just a no will do.

The jammies will need to be fitted pretty well so that's there isn't a lot of give at the shoulders. She may try to pull her arm through the arm hole and put it downwards if they are big on her. You should't have any problems tho cuz the current available footed jammies pretty much run slim (narrow from armpit to armpit....... around eleven inches for size fours) The new jammies are flame and fire retardant and are made to fit snuggly.

If you don't get this stopped you are most likely gonna have a humper. If she gets too much "consulation" with rubbing with her hands she will most likely move to rubbing herself on furniture. That's what's coming so deal with it now while she's young enough to learn that it's okay not to soothe herself THAT way.

[Inspired by Reggio]

....If you don't get this stopped you are most likely gonna have a humper. If she gets too much "consulation" with rubbing with her hands she will most likely move to rubbing herself on furniture. That's what's coming so deal with it now while she's young enough to learn that it's okay not to soothe herself THAT way.

Ironic for someone who has 'never seen this in 32 years' and a claim it is not normal childhood behavior despite glaring medical research in the early years field to the contrary and on accredited sites such as research hospitals .... now all of a sudden you are flipping to have a good enough grasp of the progression masturbation might take and the need to nip it in the bud before it becomes a 'problem' like humping furniture .... so which is it this is something you have never seen and it is not normal or this is documented enough in childhood to have 'progressions' :rolleye:

And while I agree that it is your home and your rules and that there is a time and a place for it ... so if you want to send the message to the child that is something you do AT HOME fine and dandy ~ just saying make sure the PARENT is a part of the solution and that you are CAREFUL in how you are portraying the message to the child as to why they should not do it 'at your home' to keep their sexuality in tact cause while it might not be 'your cup of tea' it is their innate human nature to 'enjoy' touching that area of the body and we have to also respect that!

[daycarewhisperer]

Ironic for someone who has 'never seen this in 32 years' and a claim it is not normal childhood behavior despite glaring medical research in the early years field to the contrary and on accredited sites such as research hospitals .... now all of a sudden you are flipping to have a good enough grasp of the progression masturbation might take and the need to nip it in the bud before it becomes a 'problem' like humping furniture .... so which is it this is something you have never seen and it is not normal or this is documented enough in childhood to have 'progressions' :rolleye:

And while I agree that it is your home and your rules and that there is a time and a place for it ... so if you want to send the message to the child that is something you do AT HOME fine and dandy ~ just saying make sure the PARENT is a part of the solution and that you are CAREFUL in how you are portraying the message to the child as to why they should not do it 'at your home' to keep their sexuality in tact cause while it might not be 'your cup of tea' it is their innate human nature to 'enjoy' touching that area of the body and we have to also respect that!

Okay so I'll take your word for it that it's normal. It doesn't matter either way. If the provider doesn't like it they don't have to host it. Plain and simple. We don't have to serve every childhood normal behavior. It's our house and our rules and if we don't want a kid with their hands down their pants then we can just say no to THAT behavior. No need to talk to the kid or explain that it can or can't be done here or there. Just block it and be done with it. Simple clothing fix.

I don't host fixations I don't like. I definitely do not want my three year old or four year old kids going home and telling thier parents that another kid is putting hand down or rubbing their private area during nap. Bad for public relations regardless of whether or not it is normal or not. This is a GROUP of kids and the child is in PUBLIC when they are in that group.

No need to debate whether or not it's normal. I personally don't think it is but it doesn't matter either way. Only question is "do you offer that service" or do you not? I don't offer that service here. I want the kids to keep their hands out of their pants. That's the service I feel comfortable offering.

[jec]

Okay so I'll take your word for it that it's normal.

We need to respect each other here and Reggio feels strongly about it for personal reasons where she was strong enough to post. You don't have to agree but reading the posts back and forth, I think you can get your point across without being condescending

[daycarewhisperer]

We need to respect each other here and Reggio feels strongly about it for personal reasons where she was strong enough to post. You don't have to agree but reading the posts back and forth, I think you can get your point across without being condescending

Oh I didn't mean that in a disrepectful tone. I can take her word for it that it's normal. I believe she believes that and that the science she brings forth fits in with her belief.

When discussing this particular issue, it doesn't matter to me whether it is normal or not. I see a ton of normal behavior in children that I don't like. I see normal behavior in adults I don't like too. So at my house I decide what normal I will host and what normal I won't host. I decide whether I provide the service to host every aspect of normal within the child and adult population I serve. My roof my rules.

[kidlove]

we apparently have two dif points of view, yay!!!! thats the glory of human nature, God gave us the ability to choose how we feel. I dont think this needs to become a "real big" issue. Reggio obviously has a strong opinion regarding the normalcy of these acts, as others have the opinion that perhaps exploring is "normal" but we do have the "freedom" to choose what happens in our own daycares. If reggio or others choose to allow a child to go into a room and "masturbate" for personal pleasure and feel that act is natural, that is THEIR STANCE and "freedom" to choose how to feel about that subject. Others dont feel it is the right choice for their in home daycare for what ever reasons, thats okay too. We al have the freedom to choose, thats why we run our own business from our own home, so we can choose what the children do and how the children grow.

[daycarewhisperer]

And while I agree that it is your home and your rules and that there is a time and a place for it ... so if you want to send the message to the child that is something you do AT HOME fine and dandy ~ just saying make sure the PARENT is a part of the solution and that you are CAREFUL in how you are portraying the message to the child as to why they should not do it 'at your home' to keep their sexuality in tact cause while it might not be 'your cup of tea' it is their innate human nature to 'enjoy' touching that area of the body and we have to also respect that!

I would NOT discuss this with the child and say this is something you do at home. I didn't suggest that. I wouldn't discuss it at all. I would just block and go about my merry way. I don't think I would talk to the parent about it much either unless they brought it up. I would just let them know that I put a blanket sleeper or footed jammies or whatever block that fits for any child that puts their hands in their diaper area at nap. Doesn't matter to me why the kid is doing it.

I adore simple. I live for simple. I would find a simple solution and go about the business of taking care of the group.