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The ONLY time I have done before and after care was if there was a sibling here all day OR the before/after child didn't take up a spot for a potential all day child..i.e. all day kid leaves at 3:45 and the before/after child comes off the bus about 4 pm. (also...there is no travel for me) I wouldn't go out of my way by packing up all other children in care and traveling to the school just to pick up a child for a value of 15$. not worth it! for me.
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The reason I am "selling myself short" is because I couldn't get any other clients, despite having tried since the middle of June.
I really don't mind my position right now...I have ONE kid from 8:30-3:30 every day but Tuesdays, when I have two kids. I have before and after kids for a grand total of 15 mins in the am's and 1.5 hours after school. Doing this, I am still making over $600 a week. Not bad, IMO.
Also, I don't have to do a run, as the kids are walked (with their parents permission) by my 12 year old every day.
It CAN work out for some.
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Wow, I'd like to make that much money for that few kids!!!!! Good for you alpha, keep up the brilliant maneuvering! 
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Oh wait...did I mention that I have Thursdays completely OFF until after school?? 
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Euphoric !
 Originally Posted by Alphaghetti
The reason I am "selling myself short" is because. .....
Sorry I did not mean to single out those who offer before and after school as selling them selves short .... I was actually including myself in that statement as I was speaking of 'providers in general' ~ collectively we have always charged less than 'big licensed centres' which IMO after having worked for almost 2 decades in that environment actually offer less individual service to clients with less focus on nutrition and high ratios and other things that are proven in research to 'affect quality learning for kids' .... I have always wondered 'why' this is our history considering that the service we offer is premium in comparison to our counter parts ... all the current research indicates that young children thrive in smaller ratios with a more home like environment ~ centres and schools are now trying to 'emulate' what we already offer trying to make institutionalized care more 'homey' because more and more studies show that children thrive in small home schooled settings .... just one of those things that makes me go hmmm about how society thinks is all!
I had to sell myself short when I started out because I feel that I should be able to charge privately the same fee that an 'agency charges' for the same service because well IMO my service exceeded theirs However the market would not bare my logic and I had to lower my fees down to the 'high end of private fees' in order to attract clients initially to get 'started' and than worked at raising them over the next few years but I still have to charge less than 'agency' does despite the fact that those inflated fees agencies charge has nothing to do with the quality of service on the front line and instead is all about the covering cost of management and adminstration :roll
Children construct their own intelligence. The adult must provide activities and context, but most of all must be able to listen. Children need proof that adults believe in them. Their three great desires are to be listened to, to understand, and to demonstrate that they are exactly what we expect."
Loris Malaguzzi
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Originally Posted by Alphaghetti
...Doing this, I am still making over $600 a week. Not bad, IMO.....
Holy crap ~ fees in your neck of the woods must be high ~ honestly that is what I make having 4 full time kids!
Children construct their own intelligence. The adult must provide activities and context, but most of all must be able to listen. Children need proof that adults believe in them. Their three great desires are to be listened to, to understand, and to demonstrate that they are exactly what we expect."
Loris Malaguzzi
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20X5=100 One B/A kid - she's ten and doesn't count toward my ratio. 
20X5=100 Her brother B/A
20X5=100 B/A
20X5=100 Her brother
40X3=120 PT baby
40X3=120 PT toddler
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Nice ... being $20 a day for the b/a children certainly helps cause that is an extra $25 a week per child compared to the $10-15 normally charged for the service and in my neck.
Children construct their own intelligence. The adult must provide activities and context, but most of all must be able to listen. Children need proof that adults believe in them. Their three great desires are to be listened to, to understand, and to demonstrate that they are exactly what we expect."
Loris Malaguzzi
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I'm in Hamilton as well and I charge 15 a day for before and after or just one or the other. If they are only here after, it's still 15, just before still 15. The local schools charge 19 for their before and after school program and they go until 6, I only work until 5:30. So, I'm kinda stuck on 15. I don't do anymore then 1 before and after though.
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Originally Posted by Alphaghetti
20X5=100 One B/A kid - she's ten and doesn't count toward my ratio.
20X5=100 Her brother B/A
20X5=100 B/A
20X5=100 Her brother
40X3=120 PT baby
40X3=120 PT toddler
I'm jealous of your schedule. It's a great example of work smarter not harder.
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