Sorry but I'm still going to have to disagree. Yes I see your point but it's still apples to oranges. I'm sure that just as I look back through history and say to myself "Holy crap that seems hard!" if my great grands were able to peek into the future and comprehend the lives we live they would say the same.
But that's a discussion for a different post. This thread is about disipline and yes I feel that whatever the reasoning (societal pressure, lack of time, laziness.. whatever you think the reason is) disipline has slacked considerably since even I was a child and I'm only 26.