Should I advertise now?

[jodaycare]

Special needs children also come with special funding so that can speed up their placement. I would probably have a conversation with the parents not actually asking permission to advertise but trying to get if they were given some sense of timing such as in January or not till Spring. I would probably wait till January to advertise since unless people need Jan or early Feb they aren't really going to be looking over Christmas anyways. They will get him into a program of some sort I would think in early January since I know around here daycare centres aren't any fuller than we are.

Mom said that it could be 6 months but it could also be less.

[Inspired by Reggio]

They must have changed the rules of daycare and subsidy than over the past five years ... cause when I was still in centre care regional run daycares could not accept a child 'eligible for school' regardless of special needs unless the parent was willing to pay full fees for it ... if they were eligible for school even jk or sk they were expected to use that funded service and our schools are suppose to be 'integrated' so any child whose labelled special needs would get assistance through an EA and resource teachers within the classroom setting .... have they talked to his school about accommodation or just assume they would not take him since he was not toilet trained and kept him out?

[Inspired by Reggio]

Also just to clarify ~ Regional run meaning not just a 'licensed centre' but one that is OWNED and FUNDED by the City of Brampton in your case ... cause my current city does not have any regional run programs cause the City counsel here felt it was a conflict of interest since the City decides how to 'divide childcare funding' fronm the Provincial government therefore felt they should not own any of said childcare programs .... but we had centres like that in my hometown and my experience was regardless of demand in 'normal' centres they always had way long waiting list for special needs and subsidized children and they would triage who got into them based on need so someone with 'minor special needs' would be way at the bottom of the list ... back than Jk and SK were still half day or alternate days but even then if the child was 'eligible' age wise to be in school than they were expected to be in school ... the government would not fund them being in the centre full time cause in their mind they were already funding the school options (we argued in a couple cases for compassion to this cause the child was just not developmentally ready for school and they would not budge ~ parent was free to PAY for the kid to be held back in a centre but they would not allow them to use the subsidized system)

[jodaycare]

The regional centres are run by the region of Peel and as far I know, they voted to close them recently to save money so I have no idea what program Mom is talking about. Mom and Dad are separated so I have no idea what school he would go to and as far as I know they cannot attend if they are not toilet trained unless they are formally diagnosed with a special need, He is high functioning, with the exception of his speech delay and lack of toilet training. My friend is an EA and she works in a classroom with children who are non verbal, have behavioural issues and aren't usually toilet trained but it is a special program within her school and they are not integrated at all in the regular school program. Mom and Dad chose to keep him out of school this year and never gave me a reason. As far as I know they are not applying for subsidy since they both make good money, they are only going this route so that he will get a resource teacher from what Mom said last night.

[Inspired by Reggio]

Ah if they are paying full fees different rules for sure - seems a shame to keep moving him around though the school should be able to help!

Is there a medical reason for not training or is the kid just not been properly motivated that diapers are no longer an option at his age?

[jodaycare]

No medical reason that i know of, when he first came to me last fall, he would pee in the potty about once a week if i was lucky then he just stopped. He does not say anything when is wet or poopy. We tried wearing underwear under the pullup but he wet it every time and after a week Mom said it was too much work washing 5 or 6 pairs of underwear every night so we stopped that. He does stay dry during nap but will not pee anywhere but the pull up, I have had him sit for 20 minutes and nothing then as soon as the pull up is on he pees. We have tried getting him to stand, use the big toilet instead of the potty and nothing. Dad apparently has had a couple of successes but I think it was more good luck and timing. It is frustrating because if I ask him if he peed in the potty he will say yes even though he hasn't done anything and when he poops he won't say anything until I ask him. So I don't know what more to do.

[sunnydays]

I have a friend whose son was not trained until almost five. He went to JK in pull-ups...they took him and he also has some some speech issues and is seeing a speech therapist, but is otherwise normal. He lives in Ottawa. I didn't think they would take a child not toilet trained either, but they did. The mom should ask the school.

[jodaycare]

Interesting. It is too late to put him in school for this year anyway. I have no idea if the parents have even figured out what school he would attend since they don't live together anymore, they broke up about 5 or 6 months ago. I will mention your friend's situation to them. Even if the schools here would take him, it wouldn't be until Sept 2013 now.

[Inspired by Reggio]

Pretty sure you can start mid year - no different than if he moved into a new neighbourhood or moved from one province to another - it's only junior kindergarten after all

Honestly if he needs support better off to get it started IN SCHOOL so it can continue on into Grade 1 if need be and so forth than moving him to a centre again and than again to the school system!!

[jodaycare]

I agree Reggio, I am honestly beginning to wonder if Mom and Dad aren't giving me the whole story because a few weeks ago they had an appointment with the developmental psychologist and Dad told me that there was nothing that stood out and that the boy was normal just shy. then last week Dad suggested to me that he thought the boy had ADHd because he, himself, was hyper as a kid and now all of a sudden the GP is pushing for a resource teacher to work with him in a centre. I don't know what to think. I am going to talk to Mom again tomorrow.