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Bright Sparks: I don't know the ins and outs of LD, but my son is symptomatic of ADHD and I have read a ton on it, one book I read called active or hyperactive I learned some info regarding the stimulation or over stimulation, one of his many issues he has to deal with. On reading I realized the truth to it, when we allow him to stay up a little later at night, he seems to maintain higher stimulation in turn sleeping less and waking earlier. IN TURN! driving us up the way 5-6 am rising! AHHHHH! kids need like 10 -11 hours sleep at night....he still needs the sleep but doesn't always get it IF he stays up late, only to effect his behavior and ability to cope well the next day. Just wondering if your boy might possibly need that same pattern, or maybe her already does go to bed at a good hour, but if he does stay up later and rise early, you may want to concider encouraging an early bed time, to help support a longer night sleep. not to mention, IF he is over stimulated could it be possible, reading and continuing to stimulate in the evening could be worse for the issue rather than helping it, maybe a suggested books down time and relax mode would help? again...i know nothing, just wracking my brains to help the situation! the stress of all you deal with def has a lot to do with why you feel the way you do, if you need anything, I am here to listen......situatio ns are a little dif, but very much the same! take care!!
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kidlove... Clearly coming on here at 9am on a Saturday morning means you have been thinking of me and for that I am truly grateful for your show of compassion 
My son could easily be mistakingly characterized as ADD. When he had his Psych Ed Assessment, the Psychologist specifically stated that he was not as she explained to me that once the findings of his assessment went to the School Board that would be their automatic identity given and it simply wasn't true. His LD and gifted status are extremely unique and effects less than 1% of the general population so in cases like his, people generally place kids in the wrong category because they don't know what else to do with them.
His brain is so active because he is understimulated and that's why it's hard to get it to stop because he very easily detaches himself and withdraws from the outside world, which is a common trait for ADD sufferers, but it's because he processes information differently and if he isn't being stimulated mentally in a certain way, nothing gets into his working memory.
My son will be 10 on Dec 24th and his bedtime is 8:30. The reading seems to help most of the time, but other times I worry that he just enters another world as most do when reading but for him it's a much more hightened state which can have the opposite effect I would like. He is generally allowed to read till 9/9:30 depending on what time he actually gets into bed and how tired he seems. A lot of times an hour after his light is off is when he first comes to complain that he can't sleep. Sometimes I tell him he can read for another 20 minutes and then thats it. This often works when he isn't going through a bad period and it will be just the thing that destracts him and he goes straight to sleep. Times when I have been a little tougher with my love I have told him not to get out of bed unless the world is ending or the house is on fire and he will still be lying awake at midnight!!!
His temperment is the same the following day and even if he has a bad week of 5 hours sleep each night, he still isn't grumpy. What I have found in the last few weeks is that he looks increasingly more like I do... chronic fatigue, so obviously low energy levels. Still an okay temperment but then he withdraws easier and it is very worrying.
I think what Reggio suggested about the sleep clinic will be my next path. I have also heard from a few different sources that supplementing with magnesium helps with sleep. People who suffer from any sleep struggles, the majority of the time, have a definciancy in magnesium. But how on earth do I get him to swallow a pill at his age??? Melatonin is the first thing that most recommend but it is dangerous for a males fertility so is not something I will entertain.
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Euphoric !
 Originally Posted by bright sparks
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I think what Reggio suggested about the sleep clinic will be my next path. I have also heard from a few different sources that supplementing with magnesium helps with sleep. People who suffer from any sleep struggles, the majority of the time, have a definciancy in magnesium. But how on earth do I get him to swallow a pill at his age??? Melatonin is the first thing that most recommend but it is dangerous for a males fertility so is not something I will entertain.
Magneisum is another awesome idea ~ I swear by it myself however I HATE pills so if I can find an alternate way to ingest something I will ...I tried 'liquid oral' option and it makes me gag ~ so I now invest in medical grade magneisum oil (have a past client who gets it for me and we share a big bottle lasts me about six months) and I put 1/2 cup in a foot soak for an hour and absorb it into my system that way ~ which is also helpful in the relaxation in general to sit and soak your feet before bedtime 
Would he do something like that ~ so while he is 'reading' to wind down can he do it in a comfy chair with a foot soak before bed?
Honestly since doing Magnesium treatments I sleep much more 'solidly' and have less pain to boot ... when we have to wait for a new shipment and I am actually out I notice a huge difference!
Children construct their own intelligence. The adult must provide activities and context, but most of all must be able to listen. Children need proof that adults believe in them. Their three great desires are to be listened to, to understand, and to demonstrate that they are exactly what we expect."
Loris Malaguzzi
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 Originally Posted by Inspired by Reggio
Magneisum is another awesome idea ~ I swear by it myself however I HATE pills so if I can find an alternate way to ingest something I will ...I tried 'liquid oral' option and it makes me gag ~ so I now invest in medical grade magneisum oil (have a past client who gets it for me and we share a big bottle lasts me about six months) and I put 1/2 cup in a foot soak for an hour and absorb it into my system that way ~ which is also helpful in the relaxation in general to sit and soak your feet before bedtime
Would he do something like that ~ so while he is 'reading' to wind down can he do it in a comfy chair with a foot soak before bed?
Honestly since doing Magnesium treatments I sleep much more 'solidly' and have less pain to boot ... when we have to wait for a new shipment and I am actually out I notice a huge difference!
I am so grateful for this advice Reggio. Would you mind messaging me the brand of Magnesium oil and where your friend gets it from along with the ratio of the mix etc. My son would absolutly do this, and I would d tooo as I have a hard time shutting my brain down and as the sleep deprivation seems to be whats amplifing all of my stress areas I think it would be an all around helpful treatment for me and my son.
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