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    Basically the Ontario DNA has a line that states "all non walkers must be kept separate from walkers" .... so it depends on how the centre is interpreting that how they make their rules ... cause reality is that some kids walk at 9 months while still in the infant room and well you cannot move up to the toddler room at 9 months so they have to figure out a way to meet that child's early development ~ so how are they keeping those kids 'separate' from the non walkers by using play areas where non walkers are kept 'safe' from being stepped on by those walking. They should be able to do the SAME thing up in the toddler room and if the client really PUSHED how do they handle 'infants' who are walking in the infant room and what is the difference than they could push the centres hand to allow the toddler to start!

    Lots of centres I worked at had toddlers who were still 'bumming/crawling' around and once they were up in the toddler room seeing ALL the other kids walking/toddling they quickly realized they better get motivated to do it!

    This is no different than the 'old' rule that preschoolers had to be toilet trained to graduate into preschool ~ the rule was because preschool rooms were not equipped with 'change tables' well eventually children came a long who were just not 'ready' to train but were ready in every other manner for the preschool room and so parents were getting angry their kid was being discriminated against over something that there was no control over and well now preschool programs have change tables and being toilet trained is no longer a requirement.

    If the child has some physical disability 'preventing' walking well all the more reason the centre would be required to take her cause well you cannot discriminate service based on disability ~ they would have to accommodate unless they can prove undue hardship which they cannot ... we had preschoolers in our programs who could not walk independently and used braces or a wheelchair ... it is called inclusion and all centers are required to practice it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by playfelt View Post
    The mom is expecting to not pay the infant rate and to have the child in the toddler room which will be cheaper but yes the child has to be walking to get into that room and there will be guidelines for moving from there to the preschool room.
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    Re: Mom not wanting to pay. I think you've hit the nail on the head
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    [QUOTE=LittleFeet;356 26]It is actually normal for a child to not be walking by 18 months.QUOTE]

    I've been caring for kids for 34 years and I've only had one child from birth to eighteen months who wasn't walking by 18 months. She was profoundly delayed. She had early childhood intervention and has had extensive special needs assistance. She's ten now and lives around the corner from me.

    I have had one kid who came to me at 2 who was a "late walker". He is also profoundly delayed in every area. He has extensive intervention.

    My experience is that about 1 in four kids walk by the first birthday... about half between 12-13 months and the other quarter between 13-15 months.
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    I have to agree with Littlefeet that there are children who are not walking at 18 months. It happens and all children are different.

    Can't the centre keep the little child back in the infant room or whatever they call it until they walk if that's their criteria for moving on to the next room. It shouldn't depend on their age, but their ability by the sound of it. Very strange.
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    I think you have to also take into consideration that there is a difference between can't and won't. Some kids especially boys are lazier by nature so don't bother to try as early as girls, although that isn't always the case either. My nephew was running across the room at 9 months lol he couldn't walk as it mean't he needed to have more control and balance but by 10 1/2 mths he had it perfected. My son was 17months and is perfectly healthy. Mentally, he is gifted so the complete opposite of being delayed. I think a lot of factors are involved. For example a 2nd child(like mine) whose older sibling does everything for them, parent's carrying the child everywhere, a child being strapped in exersaucers and highchairs constantly and confined to playpens throughout the day when they are at home. A child who isn't as physically active !!TV BABY!! and is still constantly put in a stroller to go out and about and is never encouraged to walk and be more independantly mobile. As the times change over the years, so do the expectations of how old a child should be when they reach certain milestones. Hence why Dr's test for physical and mental delays later now as it is so hard to judge every child on the same scale.

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    I wonder what the parents are doing to encourage walking? If there still plunking her in an excersaucer and putting her in front if the t.v all the time how has she been able to strengthen her core.

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    Typically, the marker for getting concerned is 18 months. If a child is not walking (and not even close to doing so), the medical professionals involved will probably start looking for a "reason".
    BUT; I agree that there is a huge difference between "can't" and "won't"!!

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    I would only be concerned if the child wasn't meeting other milestones, or showed other signs of there being a delay of some kind.

    That being said, it sounds like Mom is only concerned because she wants to pay for toddler care as opposed to infant care. If that's her issue then she needs to work on it at home.

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    My first daughter didn't walk until 18 months. She was meeting all other milestones, but was slow on all of her physical development ones. She didn't sit up on her own until 10 months or crawl until that time either. She was however, able to talk more than the other children in the daycare she was in. She was a very early talker and even now at 2 1/2 she gets strange looks because people think she's older just by some of the things that come out of her mouth haha.

    I have never heard of a child centre doing that before...

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    Pretty much every daycare centre has rules for determining which room a child belongs in using a combination of age/development. A centre has a room for each group whereas in home care we just have one room for multiple ages. Funding and fees are determined by the rooms too with more paid for a child in the infant room than the preschool room.

    The issue is not so much about the child not walking but that the mom is expecting the home daycare to keep her child temporarily till she is walking so she can go into the cheaper priced grouping - walkers have a higher ratio of child to adult than crawlers hence the lower fees owing. The provider has the right to feel used and the right to say well too bad should have thought aboaut that when child wasn't walking at 12 months and put name on list for 24 months instead.

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