Link to rules for Private providers

[Inspired by Reggio]

Reggio...and others...how soon do you think they might implement new rules and laws for all of us??? Maybe I should start thinking of a back up plan now...you've got me worrying...

They have been 'revising' the DNA since 2007, they release the paper last year in 2012 and than started the public opinion feedback portion ... so who the heck knows how long before it actually gets voted on and passed cause the wheels of government roll slow

That said I personally will not be investing huge amounts of additional money into my business at this point until they get around to releasing the final 'verdict' ~ I have worked in regulated industry for most of my career and could likely move back into it if we could be directly registered without a 'middle man' but I really have little desire to work with an 'agency' again cause it would result in a pay cut and well I would have to reflect on my pros and cons to doing this or something else where I could be self employed and make same money!

[Inspired by Reggio]

Does anyone know if my step children count towards my numbers or not? I believe they do because they're not legally mine... however... what if dad's home with them?

This is a grey area and you will likely get 100 different answers depending on peoples experience with different agencies and government employees and their interpretation of 'common parentage'.

My step son was counted in my ratios until he turned 10 because according to my home inspector he was not of common parentage to ME and I was the one providing 'daycare' and his father even while home as the custodial parent was irrelevant because under the DNA I could only have 5 children in attendance regardless of the number of adults present ~ so he put me 'over' as a result ... now had my SPOUSE been doing childcare he would not have counted in ratio at all because your own children stop counting once they turn 10

It was a very STUPID interpretation IMO and well that is the problem with the DNA as it is currently written ~ there is no LOGIC to some of their stupid rules!

[playfelt]

I am so glad I am nearing the end of my daycare years and not just starting. At this point I am not prepared to go to great lengths to get registered.

CCPRN posted a link on facebook to a program that will help people who have been with an agency for at least 12 months take their ECE training. And this may be how it starts - to get access to the training we would need to join an agency. Then if they make rules about the "training" needed to be licensed as a provider it becomes a catch 22 situation. I would say worth looking at all options especially for those starting out and at possible options for those at the other end of the spectrum. I don't think things will move that quickly but they are at least in motion.

[Inspired by Reggio]

... I don't think things will move that quickly but they are at least in motion.

So you are seeing these signs and hearing rumors in Ottawa as well Playfelt?

I know sometimes peers here think I am 'crying wolf' so to speak with the way I interpret the Modernizing Childcare in Ontario document they released and the subtle wording about their goals for childcare combined with the subtle changes I keep seeing in our region that indicates that unregulated childcare is likely going to be phased out ... just curious to the signs you are seeing your way as a member of the CCPRN?

[sunnydays]

Yeah, I looked into going with an agency when I started and I quickly realized it would not be viable for me. If I am forced to go through an agency and take a huge pay cut, I will likely look into doing something else. I love providing childcare and love being home for my kids, but I have discovered that I also love working for myself, making my own rules, building my own business, etc. I don't mind if we have to register somewhere and even have some sort of inspection, but not if it affects numbers and ratios to include my own kids and not if I have to give a percentage of my income to an agency that I, quite frankly, have no need of. I am able to fill my daycare quite easily without them and I have access to training through CCPRN.

[playfelt]

The CCPRN has held a full day workshop on the ELECT document and they have another one coming up. There has always been an attempt to help providers become more professional in how they conduct their daycares, present themselves, their upgrading etc.

There just seems to be an unspoken undercurrent to everything childcare related in Ottawa from becoming the test case for playdates rules based on that pool death to having daycare centres that have complained about the loss to full day K, and as Sunnydays pointed out the agencies are somewhat pitting their people against us. The CCPRN does take a political stand on issues and make it their business to let the government know what they like and don't like and how we feel about it all.