Thanks Reggio! I KNOW that positive reinforcement works better, but sometimes I forget and revert to my old ways of constant negative attention "stop pushing"..etc. I need to remind myself of this as whenever I try it, it works ever so much better! That's why I love this forum I have been struggling with this 2 year old more and more and exhausted by the end of the day, but I know you are right...he is looking for attention in all the wrong ways and I am unwittingly encouraging him to do so... I know I won't have to wait long for my next opportunity to try the new approach as you described above...looking forward to seeing the reaction