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    Visiting Smoking Relatives.

    Hello all.
    My father is a heavy smoker. Like a cigarette about every 20-30 minutes. I suffer from terrible, debilitating migraines and have discovered that second hand smoke is a major trigger for me to have a migraine. Anyhow, he always smokes in his house and has invited everyone over for a visit over the long weekend. I have mentioned to him that it has a tendency to give me migraines and he just says, oh I will open a window. Well that's not enough, so I have said I will come but if he smokes around me I will have to leave. Now he's angry with me and so are my siblings. They basically have told me I am being ridiculous and selfish for not visiting my own father. I do feel guilty about it but I also don't want to deal with the days and days of pain and feeling just awful a visit to his home will bring. Sorry. Just needed to vent a bit. Am I being selfish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by busydaycarelady View Post
    ....Am I being selfish?
    Not from my perspective ... your health trumps their 'right to smoke'!

    I am the worst kinda 'non smoker' I am an 'ex smoker' .... and I personally cannot stand being around smoke ~ second or THIRD hand smoke for that matter gives me migraines and makes my stomach upset ... just walking through it at the bloody entrances to malls is enough to give me a headache!

    My poor stepson lives with two smokers at his other house and for the past 8 years has had to come through the door at our house, strip down naked and get right into the shower and scrub his hair and body with exfoliating cloth and put on clean clothes from here because just the smell of the smoke 'on him' is bothersome to me and his clothes get laundered immediately by themselves and put in a 'bag' until it is time to go home and than he changes into them and leaves his clothes from 'us' here so they do not become stinky with it too ... we even had to get him a second winter coat and everything because everything STINKS of it and it was transferring to our coats just being 'beside' each other in the closet!

    I personally do not go to places where smoking is permitted 'inside' either ... when family members who smoke come to my house they are instructed there will be no smoking in the house or on the property because my home is a 'place of business' and is subject to 'no smoking bi~laws' I can blame the local government because I even had to put up no smoking signs on my entrances and in the bathrooms to be up to 'code'
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    I don't think you are being selfish at all! I grew up always going to relatives where they would smoke inside around us kids. I have not brought my daughter to see them because of this. They are not happy with me because of it but I'm sorry, if you can't respect our health to not light up inside while we come for a visit then too bad.
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    Not from my perspective ... your health trumps their 'right to smoke'!
    So very true.
    Why not suggest going out for dinner. That way you can all get together and your father can step outside for a smoke.

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    This is what always boggles my mind about those smokers who 'refuse' to accomodate someones wish to not be around 'second hand smoke' for themselves or their children?

    As an EX smoker I had to manage to make it through 4 or more hours of my 'working shift' without a smoke before my break came and I did not 'die from withdrawal' ... I am pretty sure that most workplaces now are even stricter on where you can smoke so they must be used to that too .... so how hard is it to make it through a few hour visit with someone you LOVE if they truly feel that strongly that they not be exposed to your toxic brew?
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    I have suggested going out for dinner and he says no. He wants to make it himself. I think this is also so that he can smoke whenever he wants to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by busydaycarelady View Post
    .... I think this is also so that he can smoke whenever he wants to.
    IMO the sign of a true 'addict' is when they choose their addition over their loved ones and well personally sometimes the best thing we can do for those people that addicted to a dangerous substance is TOUGH LOVE by refusing to accommodate or be around their addiction ... maybe than when they are lonely and at rock bottom they will be in a place to finally 'quit' and do what they need to to protect their own health ... this is not YOU being selfish this is you saying "I love myself enough to make the very hard choice not to expose myself to smoke even if it means I do not get to spend time with you and I love YOU enough to not enable your addiction by allowing you to engage in it in the presence of me or others! You have to choose what is more important to you ~ your addiction or your relationship with me and your grand kids?"
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    You aren't being selfish at all. One of my aunts smokes and it's basically just accepted that if we are getting together at her house for a family function, we do it when the weather is warm and we can be outside.

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    Busydaycarelady, my 4 children all started smoking when they were teenagers and I made them smoke outside in all kinds of weather hoping it would slow down their habit. And being teenagers they smoked in the house once in a while when I was at work but I always knew the second I came home. All they had to do was get close to me and my throat closed up. I cannot be around smoke or the smoke that even wafts off clothes.

    Once a couple of my children quit smoking in their 20's they realized I was not in fact over-reacting!!! They apologized to me. Smokers really don't realize how stinky they are!!!

    So I'm writing this to tell you that I completely understand how you feel. I absolutely cannot BREATHE around smokers and it's kind of important to breathe. Your headaches are REAL. I'm so sorry that your family doesn't understand. Unfortuately, they have a right to their life in their home but can you visit for a short time, take some medicine before you, stay in a hotel instead of in their home if it's a weekend visit, you know, find ways to compromise and yet stay healthy?
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    Its kind of funny(and not in a haha sort of way) but people who have never had a migraine don't seem to believe you when you try to explain just how painful they are and that Advil or Tylenol won't even put a dent in the pain a bit. Thanks all for being so understanding.

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