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Yes I agree with Niveah to mention the names of terrible babysitters and daycares so that no one else go through same bad experience.
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Euphoric !
 Originally Posted by saqi
Yes I agree with Niveah to mention the names of terrible babysitters and daycares so that no one else go through same bad experience.
This is what the purpose of organizations like Better Business beaureu are for so that complaints can be mediated and resolved and if not resolved than a rating posted for it - there are two sides to every story and if clients want to start publicly blackballing businesses with their one side than be prepared for businesses to start to do more "do not provide service to xyz client" based on their experience with the client ... the world would be such a better place if people would just COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER!
ETA had this poster mixed up with another
Last edited by Inspired by Reggio; 10-05-2012 at 12:03 PM.
Children construct their own intelligence. The adult must provide activities and context, but most of all must be able to listen. Children need proof that adults believe in them. Their three great desires are to be listened to, to understand, and to demonstrate that they are exactly what we expect."
Loris Malaguzzi
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Euphoric !
Sorry had the recent poster mixed up with someone else ~ but stand by my opinion to use the BBB verses bashing online
Last edited by Inspired by Reggio; 10-05-2012 at 12:04 PM.
Children construct their own intelligence. The adult must provide activities and context, but most of all must be able to listen. Children need proof that adults believe in them. Their three great desires are to be listened to, to understand, and to demonstrate that they are exactly what we expect."
Loris Malaguzzi
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I understand your frustration but its not fair to name providers because as we all know there are 2 sides to every story and not to say that someone is not being truthful but when disagreements happen it is possible for both sides to remember things differently. Alternatively, as a provider it would not be fair for me to post the names of parents who i have had difficulty with over the years. best to learn from each situation and move forward.
 Originally Posted by Niveah
I also wonder if we can specify who these bad providers are in this forum. I wonder if that is allowed...I guess admin might be able to answer this.
They do not participate in parents review programs.
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Please don't name specific providers. I completely understand why you might want to do so, but we want to keep these forums positive and welcoming, not critical (however much they might deserve it!). Thanks everyone for your understanding.
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As a quality home daycare provider in London Ontario with many friends who believe as I do, it makes me very sad and upset to read your problems with your current HDCP for your family. It is really important to make a commitment between the families and HDCP's for 3-4 years and gut feelings and ongoing daily communication and trust and faith in her should be there daily.
I talk to the parents daily about any situations regarding behaviour, food intake, nap problems so that they have a good idea of how their child's day progressed so they can plan their evenings.
So, if you have a bad situation, listen to your gut, and your child and find someone better!
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In the past it is normal for full time children to adjust within 2 - 6 weeks of full time care depending on the child.
My latest child in care has been with me for 6 1/2 weeks. My child is still struggling to hold the bottle on own, still struggling with learning routine, has a temper tantum when doesn't get own way, screams constantly at me when I don't respond instantly or pick up on demand. At 12 months, is not walking, crawling well, does't go up or down stairs well, takes limited initiative to do things for the child's self, still won't come to me for any reason, and has not started to follow every day routines, like coming to the table for snack, or learning daycare rules etc.
I believe it is exactly for the reason you mentioned Tinkerbell, the parents didn't prepare the child for daycare, the child is carried everywhere, the bottle is still held for the child, the child is still spoon fed, the parents go to the child, the child was entertained constantly, etc. Though I am proud of this set of parents because they did teach the child to self sooth for nap time, which does essentially help my day.
I think the hardest part is after 6 weeks of childcare with seeing so little progress I would normally terminate under my transistion period clause, but I believe this child has potential. But, like another provider mentioned in another threat that if we pass the window of opportunity, we may regret the decision not to terminate later on. For now I will keep on trucking an give the child another few months and see how the child progresses.
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"My latest child in care has been with me for 6 1/2 weeks. My child is still struggling to hold the bottle on own, still struggling with learning routine, has a temper tantum when doesn't get own way, screams constantly at me when I don't respond instantly or pick up on demand."
This is lack of training and the result of protective parenting. Most first time parents and those who depend on grand parents do not know that they have to let the child learn as early as possible.
"At 12 months, is not walking, crawling well, does't go up or down stairs well, takes limited initiative to do things for the child's self, still won't come to me for any reason, and has not started to follow every day routines, like coming to the table for snack, or learning daycare rules etc. "
This part is a bit difficult. It is not right to expect all 12 month olds to be walking. Some certainly take longer and it is not always because of protective parenting.
Also some children are more sensitive than others..even the ones independent at home start to behave like this in the new atmosphere.
Do you even expect a 12 month old to go up and down the stairs?
Some do and some do not. I think this only happens if the child started walking at 10 months.
So, again I think the parents should see what the day care provider expects or sees as developmental progress.
Day care providers who want children to be trained (in what ever way...holding the bottle, saying words etc.) before attending daycare must put this in the manual and also inform the parents during the interview.
My day care provider expected my child to have words like more, no more, water etc. at 11 months. Mine said those things..but was not comprehendable by the provider ( bilingual).She was not walking by 12 months but was running by the end of 13th month and sings rhymes by 20 months.
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This part is a bit difficult. It is not right to expect all 12 month olds to be walking. Some certainly take longer and it is not always because of protective parenting.
Also some children are more sensitive than others..even the ones independent at home start to behave like this in the new atmosphere.
Do you even expect a 12 month old to go up and down the stairs?
Some do and some do not. I think this only happens if the child started walking at 10 months.
So, again I think the parents should see what the day care provider expects or sees as developmental progress.
Day care providers who want children to be trained (in what ever way...holding the bottle, saying words etc.) before attending daycare must put this in the manual and also inform the parents during the interview.
My day care provider expected my child to have words like more, no more, water etc. at 11 months. Mine said those things..but was not comprehendable by the provider ( bilingual).She was not walking by 12 months but was running by the end of 13th month and sings rhymes by 20 months.[/QUOTE]
Wow...going up and down stairs at 12 months? Eeks ! I have 3 toddlers in daycare - all of them at the 2 year mark and I do not let any of them go down the stairs on their own.
I let them climb up the stairs but I make sure they are all going up in front of me and that I am walking behind them to make sure no one falls back and down the whole stairs.
I am starting to practise going downstairs with them 1 at a time to see how they do with it but I would never just let them do it on their own. I am right there holding their hands or going down backwards in front of them so I can catch them just in case.
I am also blown away that anyone would expect a 11 month old to say 'no more' or something like that. Putting 2 words together is usually around 18-24 months. I taught my toddlers how to say 'more' by using baby sign language and that worked out well. Most of the kids develop very differently. All 3 of my toddlers are close in age but very different in how much they talk and how good their motor skills are. Everyone is different.
The only thing I ask of new parents coming in is that their child has a nap routine and able to go to sleep on their own. I think every parents returning back to work should work on that becuase it will allow their child to have a better day at daycare and have less issues crying every day at nap time.
Myself..I used 3 different home daycares for my kids before I became one and none of them ever had stringent requests. All I can recall was that they asked them to be on a regular sleep/nap schedule
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"I am also blown away that anyone would expect a 11 month old to say 'no more' or something like that. Putting 2 words together is usually around 18-24 months. I taught my toddlers how to say 'more' by using baby sign language and that worked out well. Most of the kids develop very differently. All 3 of my toddlers are close in age but very different in how much they talk and how good their motor skills are. Everyone is different."
Yes, I was very upset too. I realized that it wasn't working anyway. It is sad that some providers have a very different mindset when it comes to milestones.
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