Quote Originally Posted by jammiesandtea View Post
Also, just to be clear: I am NOT saying people who aren't well-off shouldn't have children. My parents and many of their friends, relatives, etc were not well-off when they had their children, but they did the best they could with what they had... they didn't rely on the Gov't and taxpayers to fill in those gaps.

Children can be raised very well on limited means... it's all in what you prioritize.
But that's exactly what you are saying. So take Toronto as an example. Who's paying for me to move from downtown to the suburbs? Where in the suburbs can I get a place to suit my budget? Or, should I just move to another part of the province, or maybe to a different province? Last time I looked, smaller towns don't pay as much as city centres for the same jobs. They also don't have the economy to support the jobs if we are forcing the poor people out of the cities. What does that mean?

I work a $20 per hour job. Awesome. I am single. I have three children. My take home pay is 2700 per month. Let's say the two same gendered kids share a room. My son has his own room. I sleep in the living room. The average rent in the city or Etobicoke, or North York, or Scarborough or even further out for a two bedroom apartment is $1200 dollars. We need to eat. That's $600 per month. We need heat and lights. That's $200 a month, minimum. I have to get back and forth to work. So let's be generous and say it only costs me $10 a day to commute to and from work. there's another $200 a month.

I now have $500 a month left. oh wait. I have three kids' daycare to pay for. Let's see...3 times $35 per day equals, what? $105 per day, times five days a week. That equals $525. A WEEK. I have $500 left for the MONTH.

I don't have a phone. I sure hope nobody needs an ambulance. I don't have internet, tv, and I haven't paid for clothing, haircuts, haven't taken my kids to the movies or paid for their class trip. I haven't bought any cleaners or laundry soap. It sure would be nice to have some daycare subsidy money right about now.

What do you suggest I cut out? Do you get it now?