More on the toddler who died at daycare

[momofnerds]

ok, what I don't understand is, why they go after daycares all the time, but 2 weeks ago when a grandmother left her own grandson in a car to die no charges were laid against her. What makes that any different, she was watching 1 child and a child a died and this lady was watching 27 and a child died in both cases a child died and both were being watched.

[BlueRose]

momofnerds ~ the grandmother HAS been charged. Here is the story. http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clip...88381481237582

[momofnerds]

momofnerds ~ the grandmother HAS been charged. Here is the story. http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clip...88381481237582

wow last i heard that she wasn't getting charged because she was family.

[playfelt]

Often charges will be laid just so the case can stay open and be investigated and at that point they determine if charges will be dropped - ie it was an honest mistake or she was mad at the parents and did it on purpose, etc.

I know she is family but why should it be ok for a relative to make a tragic mistake and not a regular caregiver like us? We would both have been in the same position taking care of the child while the parents worked.

[playfelt]

I totally agree that we need some way to prove that we are up to the task while others should not get the same credit. Not sure I want to get involved in a government run program because they always spoil it. I was with licensed care in two provinces and the Ontario program was the worst of the two with too many arbitrary rules and we know that children develop on their own timetable and that was one of the reasons I left the agency among other things.

I would like to see a program where we somewhat police ourselves but within that have a public awareness campaign for the public about what to look for. Using the childcare association in Ottawa they are trying to get the message out around here as best they can. When I say to a parent that I belong to an organization such as that it shows that I am taking the time to put into my daycare too. If there were more groups like CCPRN that could take on many of the roles of an agency without the government oversight it would encourage legitimate in it for the right reasons providers to want to belong and take advantage of what is offered. With time parents would come to realize that a provider not interested in belonging isn't worth interviewing and part of the problem would go away by itself without government rules and regulations beyond just the basics we have now.

[playfelt]

Finally an article that notes some of the positives of private home care or at least that it isn't as bad as some make it out to be.

http://www.thestar.com/life/parent/2...e_daycare.html

Although the video is pretty lame in the sense of a lady and two kids - nothing on a lady and managing 5 kids. One of the issues with agency care is that once subsidy spaces are full it is harder to get parents willing to pay the extra fees to go licensed when they can get the same caregiver and pay her privately. Someone needs to mention that with many agencies a caregiver can have agency as well as private children - what makes her different for one group over the other.