Anyone take legal action on daycare?

[Judy Trickett]

I want to further add that this thread spurns me. This is another classic example how the daycare is always the one found at fault. What about the parents and the role they play?

I am NOT saying the daycare didn't act negligently. I have NO idea what the daycare did or did not do as I have not had the opportunity to hear their side of things. But I HAVE read/heard the parent's side and the parent admits to knowingly and willingly continuing to send her child to an environment that was harmful to him. Where is the PARENTAL responsibility in this? Why is it always JUST the daycare's fault?

Time and time again I see parents or media reports about "bad" daycare but when you look into it further there is almost always a parent who KNEW of or was aware there were problems but continued to send their child.

It's time parents started taking responsibility too. And it's high time society started to hold them accountable.

You say the daycare wasn't acting in your child's best interest. Well, NEITHER WERE YOU! How could you possibly expect a daycare to love and care for your child more than you? This is YOUR child, not the daycare's child. YOU should be putting his needs and quality of life first, above and beyond ANYONE else.

[Skysue]

No money in the world we keep me from sending my child anywhere that is a threat to there well being. Most parents with children with special needs make huge sacrifices for the greater good of there child.

Home schooling is the choice I would make!

[jammiesandtea]

I am of the same mind as Judy, playfelt, mimi, and ladyjbug. If the treatment of your son was so abusive, bullying, and "against the human rights code", how can you possibly stand there and justify your CHOICE to send him there for ONE MORE MINUTE after finding out???

I don't want to hear subsidy or money. Don't even use those kinds of words in the same sentence when compared to the love and sense of protection you should have for your son as his mother.

I'm also unclear as to you and your husband's work situation. You mention in your 2nd post, clarifying your child's issues, that you "quit your "real" job a year and a half ago to care for my dying mom". Does that mean you are still currently not in the workforce and are caring for your mom? If so, couldn't other family members help out there so that you could have stayed with your son rather than send him to an abusive daycare, or couldn't he have come with you?? (not an ideal situation but better than a daycare who is supposedly causing him mental trauma?)

Regardless of whether you are currently working or providing care for your mom, you have not given a valid reason to ever justify choosing convenience or money over the well-being of your son, whether for a few weeks, a day, or an hour.

I sincerely wish for health and happiness for your child.

[TwinsPlusOne]

I am of the same mind as Judy, playfelt, mimi, and ladyjbug. If the treatment of your son was so abusive, bullying, and "against the human rights code", how can you possibly stand there and justify your CHOICE to send him there for ONE MORE MINUTE after finding out???

I don't want to hear subsidy or money. Don't even use those kinds of words in the same sentence when compared to the love and sense of protection you should have for your son as his mother.

I'm also unclear as to you and your husband's work situation. You mention in your 2nd post, clarifying your child's issues, that you "quit your "real" job a year and a half ago to care for my dying mom". Does that mean you are still currently not in the workforce and are caring for your mom? If so, couldn't other family members help out there so that you could have stayed with your son rather than send him to an abusive daycare, or couldn't he have come with you?? (not an ideal situation but better than a daycare who is supposedly causing him mental trauma?)

Regardless of whether you are currently working or providing care for your mom, you have not given a valid reason to ever justify choosing convenience or money over the well-being of your son, whether for a few weeks, a day, or an hour.

I sincerely wish for health and happiness for your child.

No one else can help out with my mom. I'm an only child and have no other family.
Money is an issue. I could not afford having this daycare charge me. I could not afford them to go after me.

I spoke with both the head teacher and owner mulipul times. I offered them free training through gender spectrum in sanfran... They offer free training and education to ANYONE who works with kids.
I took time off from taking care of my mom to go to apps for my child. It ment days my dad could not look for work, or take short term jobs (he is 67 and in IT, so finding work is hard at his age), and my mothers care costs well over a thousand a month and my father can only help me out a bit financially.

I'm sorry none of you have ever been faced with the idea of a daycare taking you to collections for pulling out your child. For me that's a scary thing as we are barely keeping our heads afloat and had litterly no way to pay that out of pocket.

And taking care of my mom is a job. I may be only paid pennies per hour but its a job none the less. It is work, and even though I'm family and not paid much it is a job... Just like how you run a daycare you don't "babysit"......

[daycarewhisperer]

No one else can help out with my mom. I'm an only child and have no other family.
Money is an issue. I could not afford having this daycare charge me. I could not afford them to go after me.

I spoke with both the head teacher and owner mulipul times. I offered them free training through gender spectrum in sanfran... They offer free training and education to ANYONE who works with kids.
I took time off from taking care of my mom to go to apps for my child. It ment days my dad could not look for work, or take short term jobs (he is 67 and in IT, so finding work is hard at his age), and my mothers care costs well over a thousand a month and my father can only help me out a bit financially.

I'm sorry none of you have ever been faced with the idea of a daycare taking you to collections for pulling out your child. For me that's a scary thing as we are barely keeping our heads afloat and had litterly no way to pay that out of pocket.

And taking care of my mom is a job. I may be only paid pennies per hour but its a job none the less. It is work, and even though I'm family and not paid much it is a job... Just like how you run a daycare you don't "babysit"......

So the taxpayers of Canada pay 2100 dollars a month for your kids child care so you can get 200 a month in payment for your moms care that would cost a thousand dollars a month if you didn't do it?

Why do they pay for your child care and accept that you are getting a dollar an hour? Aren't there wage laws in Canada? Seems they would be 900 bucks ahead if they paid the grand a month for your mom's care and had you stay home with your kids. That way your daughter could be called a boy name and be referred to with male personal pronouns all day every day.

[daycarewhisperer]

Don't you wish now they would have just told you NO! NO we will not call your daughter a name other than the name she was enrolled under. NO they would not tell the daycare kids to call her a boy or use male pronouns when referring to her. NO they will not train or even share this with the staff.

NO

This would have ended the enrollment immediately right?

There comes a time when a child care business can be special needed right out of business. It would have been better for the business to tell you NO from minute one and told you that they will not even meet with you again regarding this than face the consequences of what has happened since. All the accusations and emergency mental health crisises would have been on someone else's clock if they would have told you in no uncertain terms that they would not... could not... and will not consider what you believe your daughter needs.

Take the civil rights repercussions. That will be years away before anything is settled and it will give TIME to save to defend and TIME to test the law. Be more afraid of a suing mother for what you won't do rather than what you did do.

[playfelt]

Early Childhood has rules that apply to everyone. I don't care if you call your child moe or buttercup or appledumpling at home. At school he or she will be called by the name on their birth certificate or a childlike version if requested ie Sammy for Samuel or Billy for William. If a name change has already been picked then as the parent you are free to get the birth certificate legally changed and then your child will be called the name on the certificate - end of problem. It is not the school's requirement to change their policy to accommodate you - it is your responsibility to get the birth certificate changed to the name you desire your child to be called to meet the enrolment policy.

Similar arguments for most of your other concerns but I think you get the point.

[SLD]

I cannot fathom leaving a child in a situation where they are treated as you say. So you would owe money.. so what? Take him out anyway and fight the fees.

You won't get anywhere suing this daycare. You're better off to focus your energies on your child.

[TwinsPlusOne]

I cannot fathom leaving a child in a situation where they are treated as you say. So you would owe money.. so what? Take him out anyway and fight the fees.

You won't get anywhere suing this daycare. You're better off to focus your energies on your child.

I'm not going to sue, I'm taking them to the human rights tribunal. Difference is it does not cost me money. But hopefully I can protect another child from going through what my child has gone through and teach providers across Canada that its wrong, something a lot of you on this site just don't get

[SLD]

I'm not going to sue, I'm taking them to the human rights tribunal. Difference is it does not cost me money. But hopefully I can protect another child from going through what my child has gone through and teach providers across Canada that its wrong, something a lot of you on this site just don't get

Right, the no money route.

YOU put your child through what they have gone through. YOU failed to protect your child from a provider you claim was abusive. Can you include yourself in your claim?

Forget all of this nonsense and put your child first. Sometimes it isn't about a cause.. it's about looking after your own. Once your own child is settled, then go ahead and take on the cause. Don't put the "cause" ahead of your child.