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    Quote Originally Posted by daycarewhisperer View Post
    I will not call a girl a boy. I will not address her or anyone around her relating to her as a boy. Aint gonna happen.
    This is your right in a home daycare to do so, but it does not mean it is right or best for this individual. It is simply what is best for YOU and what makes YOU more comfortable with the whole situation.

    I think there will be precious few people in society who will offer that for free. They may find teams of folks to do it who receive money for it but precious few who will offer it without being paid.
    I don't think they would find teams of people who would do it for money either. It is not societies "norm" money has nothing to do with it. Children are generally dealt with and taught to as a single model and anything outside of that "norm" makes them a special need. The child is different from the norm and the real problem is that the teacher/caregiver is not educated or equipped to meet the child's needs but the child and their family will always pull the short straw whether they be autistic, 2e, or any other type of psychological issue which does not fall under this model and have to look outside of regular schooling or care because those settings are not sufficient. This is a whole other subject, so lets not open that can of worms but you get what I'm saying I am sure. It's complicated and not clean cut.

    What's wrong with the truth? What's wrong with acknowledging that the child feels or thinks they should be the other sex? That can't be done without lying to the child and other childrenm?
    You just think it can't be done because you don't have the answer. Complicated? Extremely! But don't quit before you try. How detrimental to the child. They are the ones who suffer at the end of the day.

    If this little girl gets a vaginal yeast infection her docs will document it as such. If she gets an ovarian cyst they will tell the truth in their diagnosis. She will have a life where despite what she wants or feels she will have the truth that she is a female. Those who serve her in public should not be expected to accommodate an untruth.
    A TG person acknowledges that they have the body of a specific gender, but do not feel that they are psychologically so. There's no untruth there. Adult TG people live, dress and refer to themselves as the opposite gender than their genitalia defines them as but do not necessarily deny the physiology of their body, but gender is far more than the gentialia inbetween a persons legs, but rather the gentic makeup beyond that, which is scientifically proven, and the role that they psychologically identify with personally rather than what society puts on them. I know you lot like proof and reference so if you insist I can pull up some info.



    We shouldn't be expected to provide a therapeutic environment for her that agrees she is a boy when she is not. We shouldn't be required to have training for it. We shouldn't be trained to lie.
    Again there is no need to lie, that being said, I sure as hell don't have a clear cut answer as to how to tell a young child on a level that they can grasp. I do however think that this shouldn't mean we push these children away or treat them how WE PERSONALLY see fit because WE don't know how to deal with it. That is not THERE fault it is OURS. We really owe them respect and understanding and try to accommodate them like any other person with a special need.

    There are providers, and centres more so in urban centres who are quite capable of running inclusive programmes where they are able to efficiently and effectively accommodate the needs of many whether they be TG, Gifted, Or anywhere else on the spectrum of "special needs" or "exceptional". I'd pretty much bet that those places do not charge more per day for the TG child, than for the Hetro child. Is nobody paying attention to the suicide and depression rates of these children? It's because people either can't help them, won't try to help them or want to fix them. There is nothing wrong with them the way they are only the way society treats them.
    Last edited by bright sparks; 08-29-2013 at 02:02 PM.

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