This dcb's dad never had anything to do with him. He worked away for and was just at home on the weekends up until a few weeks before the meeting so working with mum on this was never a problem. Like I said she was very open and a great communicater. On several occasion she did express huge amounts of gratitude toward me for all the extra attention I was giving **** with his struggles. Ultimatly it was when dad got involved and is the polar opposite of mum that things broke down extremely quickly. Even the dcb's mum was dumbfounded as any issues I brought up that dad had said he'd seen, she had not and he had never told her. Coincedently, she has left him now. I do still have this child for occasional days and only if I have space, and its nice to see that he is getting some help and progressing in some areas.