Ontario Caregivers - daycare announcement due today

[Isawitfirst]

Playfelt, Do you know where in the Act it defines the child as one under 13? I have two ten year olds that I guess I must terminate. Can I let them finish the year? What kind of time line do we have?

[sunnydays]

If it truly is just 2 under two but we can have as many under 3 up to 5 kids, I will only have to terminate 2 babies, but will not close my daycare immediately. That means two newly returned to work moms will be in big trouble...but what can I do? I just don't want to tell them now and lose the kids and then find out it didn't pass or it passed but will come into effect months down the road. I just feel it's a bit up in the air still...but I am agonizing too. This is just a crappy situation all around!!!

[Fun&care]

I know many of you don't want to tell your clients but when I told one dcm her response was " oh yeah all the moms were talking about it at work". So there is a pretty good chance they already know about it but are waiting for you to say something...instead of scaring them why not ask them to help you by signing the petition that was posted earlier and writing letters to those idiots who started this mess? I think that's the better way to go.

[playfelt]

Playfelt, Do you know where in the Act it defines the child as one under 13? I have two ten year olds that I guess I must terminate. Can I let them finish the year? What kind of time line do we have?

At the very beginning of the report it lists definitions for terms in the report and under child it mentions the age 13

“child” means a person who is younger than 13 years old; (“enfant”)

[bright sparks]

At the very beginning of the report it lists definitions for terms in the report and under child it mentions the age 13

“child” means a person who is younger than 13 years old; (“enfant”)

But the bill specifically says for home daycare providers that the maximum is 5 children including their own under the age of 6 not 10 or 13. The bill just states that where the word child is used it is refeeing to a child under 13.

[playfelt]

But the bill specifically says for home daycare providers that the maximum is 5 children including their own under the age of 6 not 10 or 13. The bill just states that where the word child is used it is refeeing to a child under 13.

Which means they have removed the privilege of having school kids over age 10 as well as your allowed daycare kids ie 5 kids + any over 10

They have also effectively removed most of them anyways because schools are to provide care for those gr 1 and up. The scrambling families will be those going back after mat leave with infants and those with school age kids till more spaces are created. Even though agency care can take one more most homes already have their 2 under 2.

[bright sparks]

Which means they have removed the privilege of having school kids over age 10 as well as your allowed daycare kids ie 5 kids + any over 10

They have also effectively removed most of them anyways because schools are to provide care for those gr 1 and up. The scrambling families will be those going back after mat leave with infants and those with school age kids till more spaces are created. Even though agency care can take one more most homes already have their 2 under 2.

I understand, although this needs to be clearly defined in the bill versus no mention at all for us to just come to our own conclusions. For those with their own children 6 yrs and older, it at least solves their issues.

[playfelt]

I spoke with my mom of the 10 year old tonight and she knew nothing about it so was a total shock to her. I promised to send her the pdf by email for her to look at. Timeline is also a big factor in all of this. There will be some that would be over in kids in January but not in February if a child had a birthday. A lot of things say effective immediately but the rules aren't rigidly enforced right away and there are only warnings not fines to help people adjust so we can only hope.

[momofnerds]

I just can't see it going down asap. They need to give parents time to find alternate care. I wouldn't inform anyone till all the ducks are in a row.

[bright sparks]

I have made plans to use my energy for greater cause tonight rather than to stress out over this huge mess. I need to sleep but can`t with this whirlwind of unknowns going on in my head so I need to do something with all the info.

I am sitting down with my husband and itemizing exactly where every penny goes to with regards to my daycare and seeing where I can cut costs. It works out well as it is year end too. I am going to create a budget based on only having 3 children and see if I can make it work, through proposing cutting things like organic produce in favour of just conventional whole foods and even possibly getting rid of my minivan which would in turn eliminate extra insurance and loan payment.

I think at this point it is great to have this forum to surmise over all of the goings on, but it could also cause more worry as the more we dig into the unknown the more stressed out we will get which doesn't help anyone. I think it would be a good idea for people to be extremely realistic about their possible future by putting total facts down on paper and consider the realty of our options in our futures of running a viable business in Home daycare.