Ontario Caregivers - daycare announcement due today

[momofnerds]

why is it that most of the incidents happen in the toronto area. Where is the ministry to shut them down. If they can't handle all the complaints how are they going to handle it now. Why are ads on kijjiji still allowed to be there when we clearly see them violating all the rules. Why is no one visiting their homes and why isn't that site being monitored by the ministry. Small steps like this would be better than taking a huge leap. And of course they want to send it thru quickly they are being sued for 4.3 million dollars by the neglectful parent.

[Teagansmom]

why is it that most of the incidents happen in the toronto area. Where is the ministry to shut them down. If they can't handle all the complaints how are they going to handle it now. Why are ads on kijjiji still allowed to be there when we clearly see them violating all the rules. Why is no one visiting their homes and why isn't that site being monitored by the ministry. Small steps like this would be better than taking a huge leap. And of course they want to send it thru quickly they are being sued for 4.3 million dollars by the neglectful parent.

I believe that most incidents happen in the Toronto area is just because of the population.
I advertise on kijiji, so I take a little offence to that. I follow my ratios, I have a bright clean space, I offer nutritious meals, daily outings. I may not have my ECE but I'm a mom of 3 and run an educational program.

[momofnerds]

I believe that most incidents happen in the Toronto area is just because of the population.
I advertise on kijiji, so I take a little offence to that. I follow my ratios, I have a bright clean space, I offer nutritious meals, daily outings. I may not have my ECE but I'm a mom of 3 and run an educational program.

oh, yes I know alot that do advertise and are honest, but there are alot that are not. Have you seen the pics of some of the homes or the number of kids in the pics or the ones that charge 10 or 15 dollars for the whole day, come on someone needs to look into them.

[2cuteboys]

I believe that most incidents happen in the Toronto area is just because of the population.
I advertise on kijiji, so I take a little offence to that. I follow my ratios, I have a bright clean space, I offer nutritious meals, daily outings. I may not have my ECE but I'm a mom of 3 and run an educational program.

I don't think she was insinuating that everyone on kijiji is a bad provider, but you can sometimes tell when they are. When providers advertise for $2-300/month less than their competitors, it can be a red flag for sure.

[Teagansmom]

Yes I understand, I see ads everyday offering care for $100 a week, and see pictures as well.

[momofnerds]

there is an ad on our kijjiji it 2 sisters (they are older not teens) who are advertising for 15 dollars a day, they say that they adhere to the rules but some of the pics they posted make me go hmmm. And they say that they go to ontario early years alot. Now thats a red flag for sure.

[cfred]

I am an ECE. I have to say that, really, my business will be just fine for quite some time, if not permanently. Given the huge competition there will be for 1 year spaces, I can just up my rates to make up the loss. My children are older, so that doesn't factor in for me.

As I said, I am an ECE. This entire circus has made me realize that all the hard work I put in in school was a complete and utter waste of my time, effort and enthusiasm. This is an industry that places absolutely no value on it's worker's what-so-ever, regardless of background. In the government's eyes, none of us is worth a hill of beans. I looked online yesterday, just to see if daycare wages had improved at all since I abandoned that line of work in 1996. Nope. As an educated provider, I can expect to make a whopping $21, 000/year (no benefits of course). I mustn't forget my wage enhancement cheques, woo hoo! I feel completely devalued and forsaken by a government who is, essentially, using me and my peers as a scapegoat for their own lack of judgement and action in their jobs, ultimately resulting in deaths. For a government who is suddenly screaming about the need to upgrade the system for the betterment of the industry and children, they certainly treat all of us like shit. We are one of the lowest paid industries in this nation. I don't know about you, but I find that very telling with regards to the government's commitment to the children. I chose to go into home daycare, mainly, because (even with an education in the field) this is the ONLY way I can survive financially. That's very, very sad. I want to get licensed, but sadly, my home doesn't even meet the criteria. My entire main floor is daycare and child proofed. But alas, in a townhouse, I don't have 30 sq ft of unobstructed floor space for each child. Nor do I have child sized toilets. Oops, no change table beside a sink either.

My point is this....we need new legislation, agreed? But this is nuts! Why not revamp the entire document? Why not make it POSSIBLE for home providers to license their home, thereby subjecting us to the same inspections, etc. But we need a different licensing standard with regards to environment especially, because home daycare is a different industry than commercial daycare. Perhaps this is something we'd be wise to push for? I've wanted to be licensed forever, but can't. Can't survive on daycare wages either. I would like to not feel that my educational pursuits and years of effort haven't been completely wasted.

[Fun&care]

Cfred you said it beautifully. I too feel COMPLETELY DEVALUED and demoralized. what keeps ringing in my head is how everyone always says how IMPORTATNT the first years of life are and how important kids our to our future but they sure don't give a CRAP about the people who care for them. Nobody is willing to put their money where their mouth is and it's terrible. All this crap about " unlicensed daycare" is making me sick.

I'm lucky I won't be affected immediately by all this but I will suffer probably in the long term.

And them stripping away our rights by slapping us with big fines makes me wonder also if this is going to be worth the risk.

Cfred would you mind if I copy pasted your post and shared on Facebook? I've been trying to get through to everyone and no one seems to get it but I think you out it nicely. I've been sending emails to MPPS etc but I want to do more.

[cfred]

Sure, go ahead....I'm flattered. This whole thing has been just terrible. Financially, it won't really affect, me, as I said. I'm just so sad as I love what I do and feel completely betrayed by the people who are supposed to take care of us.

[playfelt]

Stay at home parents are undervalued and unappreciated. Why should we be any different? Really the reality is that we do what we would do for our own kids if we stayed home and I think in the long run if our daycare parents were staying at home with their kids they would start to do the same things too. Having an ECE or special training doesn't make us a better diaper changer or story reader or cuddler.