Ontario Caregivers - daycare announcement due today

[treeholm]

Whaaaaatttt??? LOL!! I'd be really interested to know where all these spaces are. I'm sure the people on my waiting list (who are on multiple waiting lists) would be interested to know as well. Where do you live? Narnia? If so, send my missing socks back please

Ugh.....ok, rant done. I forget where this post even started. Oh yeah....the young mums who haven't been hit where they live yet. Bahahahaha! That'll be interesting to follow. When they approach you for care Treeholm, don't forget to rub in the fact that you're unlicensed

The young Mom who told me there are plenty of spots is in Ottawa. I am not in Ottawa, so I really can't respond... but she said there were tons of daycare spaces in Ottawa. I suggested they were probably spaces for 2 and 3 year olds.

[Fun&care]

On another note, I did post something on my facebook page. I am a bit surprised at the responses I am getting from young Moms. They are saying that it will not be a problem because there are lots of daycare spaces available, and of course, unlicensed daycares should not be allowed... they would NEVER put their child in an unlicensed daycare! I bet they have no idea that I'm not licensed LOL. These are people who would certainly trust me with their children... they just hear "unlicensed" and see the 27 kids in the daycare in Toronto. They cannot understand why I would "stick up" for unlicensed daycares!!! Hmmm... because I AM ONE??? Wow... if parents are already convinced this is a wonderful thing, then I guess I will just stop trying to warn parents they better make sure their spot for their one year old is safe...

You really oughta clue them in and tell them you are unlicensed and that 80% of kids are in unlicensed home daycares. That should do it. People really have no clue, it's so hard to get them on our side when they don't understand what's going on.

[treeholm]

okay, I have a pool as well, but I haven't seen anything anywhere in the proposal about pools? I don't have to become licensed, and it's only the licensing agencies that are so sticky about pools, right? I already know I won't qualify to be licensed. Not interested in making changes to get licensed so I can pay an agency for nothing... I filled before I opened and stopped taking names for a wait list because it was ridiculously long. I see no incentive whatsoever to become licensed.

[gravy_train]

I haven't seen anything in the proposal either but I am concerned that we will have to adhere to the same safety regulations as licensed daycares.

[sunnydays]

Gravy Train, I am not sure how they would enforce that. If you are not with an agency, there will be nobody out there inspecting your home. I suppose if the pool thing were included in the Act and somehow the general public became aware (not that likely) then neighbours could report you. Otherwise, I don't think I would be overly worried. But who knows really!

[playfelt]

This was posted on a group I am on on facebook - with all of the hassles we have had of getting insurance how will those allowed 6 be able to get any insurance:

Quote: "when I was with the agency here in London I had to provide and pay for my own home childcare ryder insurance and provide them 'proof' it was not covered by the agency ... so that is a valid point that adding the 6th child will do no good if you cannot find insurance for more than 5 children ... so either the insurance industry would have to amend their policies OR agencies would be forced to provide group coverage which is going to end up resulting in even HIGHER fees to parents cause that cost has to be covered somewhere"

[treeholm]

The other young mom who said she would NEVER send her child to an unlicensed daycare, and this legislation is wonderful, is in the GTA.

[treeholm]

Nope, they see me as an old alarmist grandma LOL. I am not going to convince two young women who know they are right and I am clueless... I'm satisfied that I sounded the alarm... if they don't heed the warnings, I won't feel badly that I didn't try.

[Spixie33]

I was just trying to read through the actual bill proposal and it looks like they are proposing that anyone who stays unlicensed would have to disclose that they are unlicensed and have the parents sign off that they are aware that their provider is unlicensed.

It seems kind of like branding unlicensed caregivers with a scarlet letter.

12. (1) Any person who does not hold a licence shall, before providing child care in a circumstance described in paragraph 2 or 4 of subsection 6 (3), or, if relevant, in subsection 6 (4), disclose to the parent of the child, in a manner that may be prescribed, that the person does not hold a licence.

Duty to retain record of disclosure

(2) A person who makes a disclosure in accordance with subsection (1) shall retain a record of the disclosure in a prescribed manner for at least the prescribed time period, or if no time period is prescribed, for at least two years from the date the disclosure is made.

[treeholm]

But even people who are registered with an agency are unlicensed, it is the agency who is licensed, right? So all home daycares would have to sign this, wouldn't they?