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    Have they even thought of all the ramifications of these proposed changes. The increase in cost to parents (you can be dammed sure my rates will go sky high in order to allow only 3 spots. My own two girls are 3 and 4.5yrs old, so I guess I'd have to let go of 2 dck's.). So increased cost, more people going underground so to speak (no receipts/etc.), or leaving this business all together.

    This is a cash grab. Plain and simple. If they wanted to have safer daycares, there are better ways which benefit the business owners, the consumers and the children. License private daycare providers, but allow them to maintain their independence (not working for an agency). Why is this so hard? Oh yes...money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Other Mummy View Post
    Have they even thought of all the ramifications of these proposed changes. The increase in cost to parents (you can be dammed sure my rates will go sky high in order to allow only 3 spots. My own two girls are 3 and 4.5yrs old, so I guess I'd have to let go of 2 dck's.). So increased cost, more people going underground so to speak (no receipts/etc.), or leaving this business all together.

    This is a cash grab. Plain and simple. If they wanted to have safer daycares, there are better ways which benefit the business owners, the consumers and the children. License private daycare providers, but allow them to maintain their independence (not working for an agency). Why is this so hard? Oh yes...money.



    My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artsand crafts View Post
    I found this and seems that still needs to be approved:

    http://news.ontario.ca/edu/en/2013/1...ation-act.html
    After reading that, I guess if it becomes law, I will become a "babysitter".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jodaycare View Post
    After reading that, I guess if it becomes law, I will become a "babysitter".
    You and me as well jodaycare. No receipts and I can charge $15/per hour. Wow this will really benefit everybody (except the parents).

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    Here is another article

    http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/870...se-regulation/

    It basically says that all home daycares will be forced to join an agency! If that is the case I will close. So annoyed that I have put more than 20 years into my business, and now my hard work and education is going to waste! I don't think I could ever go back to working in a centre!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jodaycare View Post
    Here is another article

    http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/870...se-regulation/

    It basically says that all home daycares will be forced to join an agency! If that is the case I will close. So annoyed that I have put more than 20 years into my business, and now my hard work and education is going to waste! I don't think I could ever go back to working in a centre!!!
    I can't work in a centre either. I mean, I COULD do it, but wouldn't be able to support myself or my kids. I had a look earlier today to see if wages for daycare workers has improved at all since I graduated ECE in 1994. Nope. Downtown Toronto is highest paid at $16.41 (something like that) per hour. Most providers make a whopping $20, 000/ year. Wow.....I mean, really Ontario....thank you soooooo very much for putting such value on our children as to pay those of us willign to take care of them at poverty level. Yep.....I see a big commitment to the wellbeing of children there. I don't know why I bothered to go to school for this. It's absolute crap.

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    What I think is so frustrating is that we have to rely on media reports to keep us updated on changes that will effect not only our livelihood but also the children we care for everyday. I can only imagine the scramble that will ensue when private daycare providers have to start 'cutting' children from their group.

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    And what exactly are the fines up to $250K for? I have no intention of running an illegal daycare or breaking any rules so I'm not particularly worried but still makes me anxious that due to an innocent mistake that I could lose my flipping house!!!! An illegally run day care which is a danger to the well being should be shut down immediately nevermind a fine, but what about those who just aren't well informed and just need someone to work with them versus against them. Someone mentioned the other day about sticking to other rules such as feeding the kids meals following Canada's food guide, well I wouldn't be able to run then as anyone who knows about nutrition knows that the CFG is keeping the nation unhealthy not healthy. Parents visit different daycares for their differences to find the right match for them and their child. So what do I say now at interviews, this is how id like to run my daycare but unfortunately I will have to charge you an extra $10 a day just to be able to afford to feed your kids hotdogs and as a treat once a week the kids can paint!?!?

    This is outrageous. I think it would be very interesting to have a meeting between parents and daycare providers only to shed some reality on how this not only effects the dcp but also how it will balls up the parents life and the increased chance of parents losing their jobs due to the inability to find daycare and also because they will continuously have to find new daycare when the dcp ratios change with aging of the kids. How the hell do we decide which kids stay and which go...Omg this is too much....

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    Maybe it's a good time to write to our MPs and Queen's Park??? I'm going to construct a letter over the next couple days. Basically, I just want it known that I am in favour of regulations, but not like this. The regulations must be reasonable and feasible within the home daycare industry. Really, our industry IS different than the daycare industry. It has been my experience that this is why I'm chosen by my clients. They've all said it - they wanted them in a home, not an institution. Many like my specific style, curriculum, menu. Forcing us into agencies, pretty much removes every daycare's individuality. In addition, I think I'd like to ask my clients (past and current) to write in as well. Does anyone think this might be a good idea on a much larger scale???
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfred View Post
    Maybe it's a good time to write to our MPs and Queen's Park??? I'm going to construct a letter over the next couple days. Basically, I just want it known that I am in favour of regulations, but not like this. The regulations must be reasonable and feasible within the home daycare industry. Really, our industry IS different than the daycare industry. It has been my experience that this is why I'm chosen by my clients. They've all said it - they wanted them in a home, not an institution. Many like my specific style, curriculum, menu. Forcing us into agencies, pretty much removes every daycare's individuality. In addition, I think I'd like to ask my clients (past and current) to write in as well. Does anyone think this might be a good idea on a much larger scale???
    CCPRN has been lobbying on our behalf and demanding to be included in the discussions and from what has been proposed I can see that they were at least listened to - we weren't outright banned which is what the agencies wanted. I know CCPRN will continue to lobby and sure they would welcome the voice of other caregivers across Ontario to present a unified front. Go to their website and send them an email saying you want your voice to be heard too and how can you help the cause. www.ccprn.com

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