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playfelt Ontario Caregivers - daycare... 12-03-2013, 08:32 AM
bright sparks Where will they post the... 12-03-2013, 08:42 AM
mimi From what I read in the... 12-03-2013, 08:42 AM
Other Mummy This does not affect... 12-03-2013, 08:57 AM
playfelt So the increase for licensed... 12-03-2013, 09:02 AM
Fun&care There really won't be a... 12-03-2013, 09:27 AM
2cuteboys Your agencies charge... 12-03-2013, 12:27 PM
Fun&care I may have been misinformed... 12-03-2013, 01:33 PM
Artsand crafts When I worked for Wee Watch... 12-03-2013, 02:09 PM
cfred Yes. I looked into Wee Watch... 12-03-2013, 02:17 PM
Artsand crafts Wee watch does not even offer... 12-03-2013, 02:29 PM
playfelt From ON Minister of Education... 12-03-2013, 08:58 AM
cfred Yep...if that all comes into... 12-03-2013, 09:20 AM
playfelt I think the unsafe part will... 12-03-2013, 09:54 AM
Sassygirl Guess I will either become a... 12-03-2013, 10:00 AM
Jilly Hello Everyone! I have... 12-05-2013, 01:28 PM
bright sparks Just to correct you Jilly,... 12-05-2013, 01:34 PM
Jilly Ok so we are allowed 2 under... 12-05-2013, 01:39 PM
bright sparks 2 under the age of two and... 12-05-2013, 01:51 PM
cfred I really, really don't... 12-03-2013, 10:02 AM
Fun&care This is exactly how I am... 12-03-2013, 10:13 AM
bright sparks CityNews Toronto's article... 12-03-2013, 10:54 AM
Jilly Honestly I think they should... 12-05-2013, 02:05 PM
Sassygirl Me too. I am fine with... 12-03-2013, 11:04 AM
Fun&care Wait a minute...found this... 12-03-2013, 11:17 AM
bright sparks Thanks for that. I'd love to... 12-03-2013, 11:34 AM
Fun&care I can't seem to find anything... 12-03-2013, 11:14 AM
bright sparks Playfelts post said that even... 12-03-2013, 11:17 AM
Sassygirl Absolutely Bright Sparks! I... 12-03-2013, 11:45 AM
Crayola kiddies So am I understanding this... 12-03-2013, 11:45 AM
Sassygirl Yes Crayola that is exactly... 12-03-2013, 11:48 AM
Crayola kiddies Ok thanks .... The only time... 12-03-2013, 11:53 AM
bright sparks Do you mind me asking you how... 12-03-2013, 12:23 PM
kimg I think so. But what about... 12-03-2013, 12:02 PM
Artsand crafts Lots of HDC have more than 2... 12-03-2013, 11:52 AM
Artsand crafts The rule with agencies is 2... 12-03-2013, 11:55 AM
Crayola kiddies my husband is home in the am... 12-03-2013, 12:06 PM
gravy_train This sentence has me worried:... 12-03-2013, 12:16 PM
FSD Well...this SUCKS! I have 4... 12-03-2013, 12:23 PM
jodaycare Does the minister actually... 12-03-2013, 12:35 PM
cfred Yeah, my kids are older too,... 12-03-2013, 12:48 PM
Artsand crafts I found this and seems that... 12-03-2013, 01:19 PM
Other Mummy Have they even thought of all... 12-03-2013, 01:29 PM
jodaycare My thoughts exactly!!!!!!! 12-03-2013, 01:34 PM
jodaycare After reading that, I guess... 12-03-2013, 01:31 PM
jodaycare Here is another article ... 12-03-2013, 12:48 PM
cfred I can't work in a centre... 12-03-2013, 01:02 PM
gravy_train What I think is so... 12-03-2013, 12:58 PM
bright sparks And what exactly are the... 12-03-2013, 01:18 PM
cfred Maybe it's a good time to... 12-03-2013, 01:38 PM
playfelt CCPRN has been lobbying on... 12-03-2013, 07:32 PM
Artsand crafts I'll definetevely get in... 12-03-2013, 09:29 PM
cfred Here I sit, with insomnia... 12-04-2013, 12:17 AM
Other Mummy We should unite and try to... 12-03-2013, 01:47 PM
gravy_train Sassygirl, it still needs to... 12-03-2013, 01:55 PM
torontokids The only thing we risk is... 12-03-2013, 02:01 PM
treeholm I'm assuming that this will... 12-03-2013, 02:15 PM
Artsand crafts This is what is surprising to... 12-03-2013, 02:19 PM
Daisy123 Someone I just spoke to... 12-03-2013, 04:37 PM
Artsand crafts That's right. Government send... 12-03-2013, 04:54 PM
cfred We got those when I was head... 12-03-2013, 06:10 PM
Fun&care Here's an idea- why don't we... 12-03-2013, 07:25 PM
playfelt When I lived in Calgary I did... 12-03-2013, 07:37 PM
treeholm I can't see any information... 12-03-2013, 04:37 PM
treeholm yes, I can't see the... 12-03-2013, 07:53 PM
Fun&care To be honest, I don't see how... 12-03-2013, 08:10 PM
treeholm I agree that it really can't... 12-03-2013, 08:50 PM
Other Mummy I will be writing an email to... 12-04-2013, 06:04 AM
gravy_train So how are you guys... 12-04-2013, 08:11 AM
treeholm I am hoping to find out how... 12-04-2013, 08:17 AM
crafty Wow 12-04-2013, 08:17 AM
gravy_train I feel in my heart like I... 12-04-2013, 08:24 AM
crafty As for my parents, I told... 12-04-2013, 08:24 AM
treeholm Yup, this is stressful for... 12-04-2013, 08:27 AM
Fun&care I think that they would have... 12-04-2013, 09:12 AM
bright sparks I'm trying to be optimistic... 12-04-2013, 09:31 AM
Artsand crafts I currently don't do part... 12-04-2013, 12:15 PM
pink You are absolutely right, the... 12-04-2013, 08:33 AM
gravy_train Well that's exactly it for me... 12-04-2013, 08:33 AM
treeholm I have decided that because... 12-04-2013, 08:50 AM
playfelt So what I am taking from the... 12-04-2013, 08:57 AM
bright sparks The link you provided above... 12-04-2013, 09:03 AM
bright sparks Do you really think it would... 12-04-2013, 08:59 AM
treeholm I do see what you are saying... 12-04-2013, 09:04 AM
bright sparks And this is the only mention... 12-04-2013, 09:07 AM
playfelt Someone posted a copy of the... 12-04-2013, 08:53 AM
sunnydays The link doesn't work for me.... 12-04-2013, 12:13 PM
playfelt I can't get to the link now... 12-04-2013, 12:26 PM
treeholm Also, it is my understanding... 12-04-2013, 09:07 AM
treeholm My problem is that all of... 12-04-2013, 09:20 AM
bright sparks Fun&Care Click on... 12-04-2013, 09:22 AM
playfelt Some of the school programs... 12-04-2013, 09:32 AM
playfelt The bill still has to be... 12-04-2013, 09:34 AM
gravy_train Not to be overly pessimistic... 12-04-2013, 09:43 AM
momofnerds I think this is a proposed... 12-04-2013, 09:26 AM
playfelt I'm not saying anything to my... 12-04-2013, 09:30 AM
Fun&care I also read somewhere that... 12-04-2013, 09:43 AM
treeholm Good point, but I have heard... 12-04-2013, 10:06 AM
Crayola kiddies well if that isn't enough... 12-04-2013, 01:16 PM
momofnerds also are they going to hire... 12-04-2013, 10:02 AM
cfred God, I feel ill. We just... 12-04-2013, 10:12 AM
Fun&care This is what I read also but... 12-04-2013, 10:24 AM
treeholm http://www.ottawacitizen.com/l... 12-04-2013, 10:18 AM
momofnerds @cfred I wondered why the... 12-04-2013, 10:23 AM
cfred I'm trying to sift through... 12-04-2013, 10:26 AM
momofnerds I was thinking the same... 12-04-2013, 10:36 AM
Teagansmom Cfred I totally agree with... 12-04-2013, 10:27 AM
playfelt ON the Vaughan issue there... 12-04-2013, 10:45 AM
Discoveries Treehome I understand your... 12-04-2013, 10:50 AM
treeholm I turn away a potential... 12-04-2013, 11:37 AM
treeholm I guess we need to bombard... 12-04-2013, 11:39 AM
crafty Well ... I just spoke to a... 12-04-2013, 11:36 AM
treeholm Crafty, do you have a phone... 12-04-2013, 11:40 AM
momofnerds also, how are we going to... 12-04-2013, 11:49 AM
treeholm That's easy, they will just... 12-04-2013, 11:51 AM
mommarmars Here are the details if... 12-04-2013, 11:54 AM
crafty She also gave me this website... 12-04-2013, 11:56 AM
treeholm Thanks crafty! 12-04-2013, 12:01 PM
username Here is what I am sending: ... 12-04-2013, 12:02 PM
giraffe Just wanted to say that they... 12-04-2013, 12:13 PM
Artsand crafts I heard that in another... 12-04-2013, 12:28 PM
playfelt Before anyone starts a... 12-04-2013, 12:35 PM
Artsand crafts That is a great idea... 12-04-2013, 12:51 PM
treeholm It's on the agenda for a... 12-04-2013, 12:07 PM
Other Mummy username....May I use a lot... 12-04-2013, 12:09 PM
momofnerds if the ratio is going to be... 12-04-2013, 12:10 PM
username Yes please! That is why I... 12-04-2013, 12:13 PM
treeholm http://www.thepetitionsite.com... 12-04-2013, 12:16 PM
cfred signed it, thanks 12-04-2013, 01:15 PM
sunnydays Yesterday I was not panicking... 12-04-2013, 12:27 PM
sunnydays Playfelt, thanks for this... 12-04-2013, 12:50 PM
gravy_train does anyone know if under age... 12-04-2013, 12:50 PM
pink After reading the... 12-04-2013, 12:54 PM
momofnerds I think they need to leave... 12-04-2013, 12:54 PM
bright sparks I have actually already told... 12-04-2013, 12:55 PM
playfelt http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bil... 12-04-2013, 12:56 PM
playfelt under age 2 means child has... 12-04-2013, 01:04 PM
KingstonMom I am concerned about what to... 12-04-2013, 01:10 PM
sunnydays But if two providers with an... 12-04-2013, 01:19 PM
cfred I've hated the Liberals for... 12-04-2013, 01:19 PM
Crayola kiddies the liberals have been... 12-04-2013, 01:36 PM
sunnydays I am not telling my daycare... 12-04-2013, 01:23 PM
treeholm I am not criticizing you for... 12-04-2013, 01:43 PM
Isawitfirst Sorry if this has already... 12-04-2013, 02:01 PM
cfred It is my understanding that... 12-04-2013, 02:19 PM
momofnerds look at the even bigger... 12-04-2013, 01:25 PM
sunnydays Arts and Crafts, I am not... 12-04-2013, 01:33 PM
Artsand crafts At least that could be an... 12-04-2013, 01:43 PM
playfelt I have taken on a school age... 12-04-2013, 03:29 PM
Isawitfirst Playfelt, Do you know where... 12-04-2013, 03:45 PM
sunnydays If it truly is just 2 under... 12-04-2013, 04:02 PM
Fun&care I know many of you don't want... 12-04-2013, 04:13 PM
playfelt At the very beginning of the... 12-04-2013, 04:30 PM
bright sparks But the bill specifically... 12-04-2013, 04:35 PM
playfelt Which means they have removed... 12-04-2013, 04:42 PM
bright sparks I understand, although this... 12-04-2013, 04:51 PM
playfelt I spoke with my mom of the 10... 12-04-2013, 04:35 PM
momofnerds I just can't see it going... 12-04-2013, 04:38 PM
bright sparks I have made plans to use my... 12-04-2013, 04:58 PM
treeholm I don't think there is any... 12-04-2013, 04:44 PM
Crayola kiddies Who says we are terminating... 12-04-2013, 04:55 PM
bright sparks As a few people have... 12-04-2013, 04:48 PM
momofnerds I can't find it either. 12-04-2013, 04:51 PM
momofnerds where does it say that this... 12-04-2013, 04:52 PM
treeholm Sorry, January 6th is the day... 12-04-2013, 04:55 PM
treeholm I do think we need to call... 12-04-2013, 05:14 PM
Artsand crafts http://www.thestar.com/news/gt... 12-04-2013, 05:37 PM
Teagansmom Well it looks like that all 3... 12-04-2013, 05:47 PM
Other Mummy I have 6 children in care at... 12-04-2013, 05:59 PM
giraffe What about the summer and pd... 12-04-2013, 08:29 PM
momofnerds acually if you read further... 12-04-2013, 06:19 PM
Teagansmom I was referring to The... 12-04-2013, 06:39 PM
playfelt The NDP saying the welcomed... 12-04-2013, 07:13 PM
playfelt http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/hou... 12-04-2013, 07:28 PM
Artsand crafts Thank you for the link! It... 12-04-2013, 07:42 PM
sunnydays Playfelt...again I can't get... 12-04-2013, 07:58 PM
sunnydays Okay, I got on. And I can... 12-04-2013, 08:28 PM
treeholm I have read the transcripts... 12-04-2013, 10:04 PM
cfred I think that's correct... 12-05-2013, 06:23 AM
crafty So ... What I want to know is... 12-05-2013, 06:39 AM
sunnydays I have written a letter to... 12-05-2013, 06:43 AM
kimg Done. I also sent the same... 12-05-2013, 01:07 PM
momofnerds I think what makes me more... 12-05-2013, 07:01 AM
gravy_train The other issue is that in... 12-05-2013, 07:20 AM
KingstonMom I wonder how many providers... 12-05-2013, 07:29 AM
Teagansmom Crafty great idea, I think we... 12-05-2013, 07:10 AM
playfelt Would have to be a whole week... 12-05-2013, 07:54 AM
Teagansmom Maybe everyone can march to... 12-05-2013, 07:58 AM
crafty I would be willing to do it ! 12-05-2013, 07:17 AM
Teagansmom Exactly gravy train, it's... 12-05-2013, 07:26 AM
gravy_train Would love some more links to... 12-05-2013, 07:33 AM
gravy_train Yes, Teagansmom and I'm sure... 12-05-2013, 07:31 AM
Other Mummy You know there will be a huge... 12-05-2013, 07:37 AM
treeholm What I just do not... 12-05-2013, 07:48 AM
playfelt As with a lot of bills it... 12-05-2013, 08:00 AM
treeholm So really, it is the... 12-05-2013, 08:32 AM
sunnydays I know there will be a lot of... 12-05-2013, 08:46 AM
bright sparks My husband and I have already... 12-05-2013, 08:52 AM
Teagansmom My brother in law was telling... 12-05-2013, 08:59 AM
playfelt Quote: "I am not sure about a... 12-05-2013, 08:55 AM
Teagansmom Yes, maybe a rally may not be... 12-05-2013, 09:01 AM
username I think we should be pushing... 12-05-2013, 09:12 AM
sunnydays I took that directly from the... 12-05-2013, 09:17 AM
playfelt We need to get the parents to... 12-05-2013, 09:10 AM
sunnydays This is what is happening... 12-05-2013, 09:16 AM
Wonderwiper Ah good times!!!! As some... 12-05-2013, 09:17 AM
treeholm I just sent this to my... 12-05-2013, 09:38 AM
giraffe You should send this to the... 12-05-2013, 10:18 AM
Wonderwiper Treeholm...that's similar to... 12-05-2013, 09:44 AM
momofnerds why is it that most of the... 12-05-2013, 09:49 AM
Teagansmom I believe that most incidents... 12-05-2013, 09:54 AM
momofnerds oh, yes I know alot that do... 12-05-2013, 10:02 AM
2cuteboys I don't think she was... 12-05-2013, 10:04 AM
Teagansmom Yes I understand, I see ads... 12-05-2013, 10:10 AM
momofnerds there is an ad on our kijjiji... 12-05-2013, 10:15 AM
cfred I am an ECE. I have to say... 12-05-2013, 10:25 AM
Fun&care Cfred you said it... 12-05-2013, 10:56 AM
cfred Sure, go ahead....I'm... 12-05-2013, 11:00 AM
playfelt Stay at home parents are... 12-05-2013, 11:12 AM
momof5 As many of you know I have... 12-05-2013, 11:28 AM
treeholm Oh wow... in all this stress,... 12-05-2013, 11:28 AM
Artsand crafts and these will be the lucky... 12-05-2013, 11:31 AM
playfelt Maybe we could hold a lottery... 12-05-2013, 11:37 AM
cfred Treeholm, that was a... 12-05-2013, 11:35 AM
treeholm I was just thinking of giving... 12-05-2013, 11:40 AM
treeholm Yup, one year olds will pay... 12-05-2013, 11:39 AM
Wonderwiper The main problem is that no... 12-05-2013, 12:01 PM
treeholm Wonderwiper, I'm in an area... 12-05-2013, 12:13 PM
crafty Would anyone minde taking ... 12-05-2013, 12:21 PM
treeholm I'm a communications... 12-05-2013, 12:26 PM
torontokids I was just thinking it would... 12-05-2013, 12:28 PM
Fun&care I've changed my status on FB... 12-05-2013, 12:29 PM
crafty I JUST DID ! Thank you... 12-05-2013, 12:33 PM
torontokids We need speakers corner back! 12-05-2013, 12:29 PM
cfred My friend told me that if she... 12-05-2013, 12:29 PM
cfred I have already Fun & Care. ... 12-05-2013, 12:34 PM
treeholm New facebook group: Ontario... 12-05-2013, 01:10 PM
torontokids I was also thinking about... 12-05-2013, 01:20 PM
Fun&care I was thinking about doing... 12-05-2013, 01:32 PM
torontokids Sent this to the Globe To... 12-05-2013, 01:17 PM
giraffe Love love!! You should send... 12-05-2013, 01:20 PM
Jilly Well said! 12-05-2013, 01:35 PM
momofnerds you know why they want to... 12-05-2013, 01:24 PM
crafty Well it's done ! My letter is... 12-05-2013, 01:29 PM
Jilly Well said! 12-05-2013, 01:48 PM
momofnerds ok, not sure if this is true... 12-05-2013, 01:46 PM
crafty I sure hope so but when I... 12-05-2013, 01:50 PM
momofnerds of course the ministry is... 12-05-2013, 02:15 PM
Mama of 1 I want to know why the... 12-05-2013, 02:44 PM
gravy_train This might be obvious but if... 12-05-2013, 02:57 PM
sunnydays Yesterday I sent a shwack of... 12-05-2013, 02:59 PM
sunnydays This comforts me. They are... 12-05-2013, 02:59 PM
KingstonMom Yes that does sound like they... 12-05-2013, 03:26 PM
Wonderwiper Gravy train...while... 12-05-2013, 04:01 PM
gravy_train So what do you think that... 12-05-2013, 04:13 PM
momofnerds we become babysitters. I just... 12-05-2013, 04:18 PM
gravy_train So do you think it will be... 12-05-2013, 04:34 PM
treeholm On another note, I did post... 12-05-2013, 05:23 PM
cfred Whaaaaatttt??? LOL!! I'd be... 12-05-2013, 07:03 PM
treeholm The young Mom who told me... 12-05-2013, 07:17 PM
Fun&care You really oughta clue them... 12-05-2013, 07:36 PM
treeholm okay, I have a pool as well,... 12-05-2013, 05:20 PM
gravy_train I haven't seen anything in... 12-05-2013, 05:23 PM
sunnydays Gravy Train, I am not sure... 12-05-2013, 06:37 PM
playfelt This was posted on a group I... 12-05-2013, 06:59 PM
treeholm The other young mom who said... 12-05-2013, 07:20 PM
treeholm Nope, they see me as an old... 12-05-2013, 07:40 PM
Spixie33 I was just trying to read... 12-05-2013, 08:15 PM
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Spixie33 My understanding is that the... 12-05-2013, 08:26 PM
Artsand crafts That could be to address what... 12-05-2013, 08:31 PM
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momofnerds 1. someone mentioned about... 12-05-2013, 08:49 PM
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playfelt We will actually be able to... 12-05-2013, 08:40 PM
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Teagansmom It looks like the legislature... 12-06-2013, 06:28 AM
Woodsy I have a random... 12-06-2013, 07:59 AM
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SecondAve Remember to sign the online... 12-06-2013, 02:12 PM
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SecondAve Completely agree with your... 12-06-2013, 04:38 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fun&care View Post
    There really won't be a difference in income then, considering agencies take about 10$ per day per child, if we are allowed one less kid...financially it ends up being the same am I correct?

    I would also like more detail about "unsafe" daycares being shut down. Hopefully they come up with a specific definition of "unsafe".

    I just don't get where all the 12 month olds are going to go now. They are not addressing the demand for care for this age range and that unlicensed daycares are taking these kids on because licensed places don't have spaces. They are basically cutting that off and it will leave parents with no care options.

    Feeling pretty bummed out
    Your agencies charge $10/day/child???? That's obscene.

    In AB our agencies are funded by the gov't through child and family services; it's really the only reason it actually works. I pay them $70/month, and $40 of that is insurance. It basically works out to $10/child/month, and I only have 3 kids (not including my own). I believe the agency staff is paid by the government, with the agency fees mainly going to admin stuff. They also run 6 PD trainings a year.

    We're limited to 6 including our own kids, 2 under 2, 3 under 3. It does result in a lot of 1 year olds without care, but we still have non-accredited day homes with no restrictions on ages. One of my neighbours runs one and she's got mainly under 2s.

    We also have levels of accreditation based on education and experience, and the government pays top-up wages to providers with agencies, up to $6.62/hr of time you have kids in your home. We also get $2500 (meant to be spent on things for the program, but it's not monitored) after the completion of one year (for the first two years), and a bonus for returning to child care after being gone for some period of time - it didn't apply to me so I'm not sure what the time frame is. I need to do a lot of work (submit meal and program plans, have monthly visits, attend PD), but the extra money FAR outweighs the extra hour it takes me a week.

    Bottom line is if the government it going to go ahead with such tight restrictions, they need to cough up some incentive programs. They're going to have A LOT of providers jumping ship as it just won't be financially beneficial or feasible at all. What happens to the economy when a significant number of parents need to quit because they can no longer find or afford childcare? Not a good situation.
    Last edited by 2cuteboys; 12-03-2013 at 12:33 PM.

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