Ontario Caregivers - daycare announcement due today

[Crayola kiddies]

I don't think there is any talk of giving parents time to find alternate care, because the reality is, many parents won't be able to... and when some of us start terminating Jan 6th, it will put all the other parents into a panic as well. What we need is for the parents to panic NOW before it is passed, so they can protest, not just wait until is a done deal and they are terminated.

Who says we are terminating families as of jan 6? This hasn't even been passed yet ....

[treeholm]

Sorry, January 6th is the day many of us reopen after Christmas holidays. They want to pass this in the Christmas sitting of the legislature so it can take effect by the end of this year. It's a 2013 amendment. Someone posted above that the person with whom they spoke at the ministry said if it passes, it will come into effect immediately with no delay or grandfathering in of existing daycares. Since I'm on vacation, it won't affect me until I re-open on Jan 6, which is when I will have to refuse to admit my one year olds back into care. I'm sure hoping it doesn't come into effect before I go on Christmas vacation! I don't want to terminate anyone a week before Christmas.. so I'm just assuming I can wait to terminate until Jan 6th.

[bright sparks]

I have made plans to use my energy for greater cause tonight rather than to stress out over this huge mess. I need to sleep but can`t with this whirlwind of unknowns going on in my head so I need to do something with all the info.

I am sitting down with my husband and itemizing exactly where every penny goes to with regards to my daycare and seeing where I can cut costs. It works out well as it is year end too. I am going to create a budget based on only having 3 children and see if I can make it work, through proposing cutting things like organic produce in favour of just conventional whole foods and even possibly getting rid of my minivan which would in turn eliminate extra insurance and loan payment.

I think at this point it is great to have this forum to surmise over all of the goings on, but it could also cause more worry as the more we dig into the unknown the more stressed out we will get which doesn't help anyone. I think it would be a good idea for people to be extremely realistic about their possible future by putting total facts down on paper and consider the realty of our options in our futures of running a viable business in Home daycare.

[treeholm]

I do think we need to call our MPPs and ask what they recommend we tell parents. I know in my area, the daycare centres do not have open spots for one year olds. Many parents have heard awful things about wee watch, so they don't want to go there. So, what does the government have planned in terms of where we should send the children that we will be forced to terminate as soon as this takes effect? I think if enough people phone the MPPs, it might dawn on them that the logistics of this proposed legislation is just not going to work. I know one home daycare provider who has decided today to quickly find a place for her own children, terminate the daycare children, and go back to work outside the home. She was full... that means 7 children are suddenly going to have to find daycare spaces immediately... in a small town where she was able to fill her own daycare immediately because there is such a shortage of spaces...

[Artsand crafts]

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013...gislation.html

[Teagansmom]

Well it looks like that all 3 levels of government are going to pass this bill. For me my kids are older than 6 and I currently have no dc kids as I just relocated a little over a month ago. I feel horrible for all you providers who have young children who will now count in you numbers.

[Other Mummy]

I have 6 children in care at the moment (my 3 year old daughter is included in this count along with my 5 daycare kids). I have a 5 year old and a 10 year old in school full time. My school aged kids are out of the house from 8:30 until 3:30. Some of my daycare kids get dropped off at 9:00am and leave by 4:30. So I will have an overlap of an hour a day.

If this passes I'm only going to let 1 family go (then I will still have 5 kids total in care during the day, my own 3 year old and 4 daycare kids).

How is the gov't going to enforce situations where the school aged children aren't even home during daycare hours (eg. maybe they have after school programs and don't get home till after 4:30). What if there is some sort of overlap.
How are they going to count this? This will be very hard to enforce.

[momofnerds]

Well it looks like that all 3 levels of government are going to pass this bill. For me my kids are older than 6 and I currently have no dc kids as I just relocated a little over a month ago. I feel horrible for all you providers who have young children who will now count in you numbers.

acually if you read further down it says "if approved" so nothing has been approved. And it says that children under 10 are going to count in numbers. So its also just a newspaper and we all know how one sided newspapers are.

[Teagansmom]

I was referring to The Toronto Star article which printed that the NDP "welcomed" the new legislation. Really I also meant to say the 3 major parties. I understand that it has not passed yet, however it would only take the liberals and NDP to pass the bill into law.
Your own children 6 and boer would not count.

[playfelt]

The NDP saying the welcomed the bill is really nothing more than politicking on her part in that she knows this is important to the people of Ontario and at the same time is non-committal saying she will read the document before deciding to support it as is - meaning there is still room for improvement/debate in theory. At the same time no party is going to want to be labelled as holding up such "important" legislation.

That under 10 rule is still floating around and mostly I don't think those reporting the news are reading things as closely as we are because it doesn't effect them nor do they understand the system as it is now. Even on a facebook forum I am on they are arguing the 1 under 1, 2 under 2, 3 under 3 rule and messing everyone up. It seems to be falling on deaf ears to please forget what you know now and go read the new report.