Ontario Caregivers - daycare announcement due today

[bright sparks]

This is related so bear with me...

I was at the salon on Saturday morning having a makeup application. The lady doing it was asking what I did and so we started talking as she has her 2yr old with a home daycare provider. I was talking about all the changes and she was very surprised at the current law being max 5 kids and explained that her provider has 7 all at once and I clarified that they were all under 10. When I explained that her daycare was not only ILLEGAL but also most certainly UNINSURED, she just said, "Oh but I love my provider and she has been doing this for years." OMG I almost choked and had it not been for the other people there, I probably would have told her flat out what an effin disgrace she was.

Oh there's more....

I talked about the new ratio for 2 under 2 in the new act and we talked about how that's not even the ratio in centre care and that I was not 100% sure what the ratio was in centres but I thought it was 1 to 3 and the client behind me piped in that this was correct, as she is an ECE working in a centre. We were talking about how awful the news was about the death of the child in Vaughan and this cheeky cow proceeded to tell everyone in the room how this happens ALL THE TIME in UNLICENSED settings. Well I had to use everything I had to contain my rage. I immediately said that that was complete nonsense and that these incidents are tragic but extremely rare. I really got her told, I was so annoyed. If I thought I could have kept my wits about me I would have reminded her that it wasn't that long ago that the media were reporting a license daycare centre where the staff held the children down at naptime, but I had to calm myself down so I didn't start shouting at this bitch.

I was infuriated enough by the woman who dismissed legitimate reasons to report her provider and seek legal and fully insured childcare, but then to have this flipping woman spewing lies about our industry made me want to actually shut her up with my fist. I was sat with clenched fists and shaking I was so angry. The slanderous people out their badmouthing our industry should not be allowed to get away with spreading lies to innocent people. It is hard enough for parents to leave their children as it is without having these false horror stories in their heads by morons.

Rant over!

[playfelt]

If any of the children in the home belong to the provider then she is probably legal having 7 - at least by the standards in place today.

Next thing we need to work on is how to get our message out to the families about childcare. All they see is that there are no controls on us and that we are labelled as illegal even though we are not. There is so much misunderstanding out there. We need to figure out some sort of public awareness campaign to enlighten the world and in so doing remind them they are giving up their right to have any say in what happens with their young children.

[Fun&care]

That's terrible bright sparks...I was seeing red just reading your post! A big THANK YOU to the media for saying such horrible things about home daycares, and putting us ALL in the same category as a woman who killed a child. Honestly now that this whole thing has hit, I have realized that once my youngest is in school I'm outta here. I am so discouraged and saddened by what the media has put out there. Honestly when I opened my daycare I really thought I would be in this for the long haul as I LOVE it, but it's just not worth it when EVERYONE ELSE thinks YOU'RE not worth it. I've been feeling like garbage over this whole thing. I am still somewhat in shock at how we were attacked instead of supported through some new training programs, or a registry as was proposed by the CCPRN. This whole thing has just been a slap in the face and I hate it. We don't deserve this.

Rant over.

[bright sparks]

If any of the children in the home belong to the provider then she is probably legal having 7 - at least by the standards in place today.

Sorry I had meant to put that I clarified that none of the kids were either hers or over 10. Of course I know that some of these kids could have been hers and would never either jump to conclusions or bad mouth a woman without all the facts. That's I why I very clearly asked her those two things.

[gravy_train]

I just read that the second reading of the bill will be this Thursday, February 20. Has anyone heard anything?

[bright sparks]

I just read that the second reading of the bill will be this Thursday, February 20. Has anyone heard anything?

Would you mind sourcing where you read this? Ty

[gravy_train]

I read it on the message board of another daycare provider's group where I am a member. You can verify at ontla.on.ca but their server appears to be down at the moment.

[playfelt]

Here are some things I have found - on the legislature site only found the agenda for today not what will be in the future as it is set each day based on how far they get. This about all I could find in a search and most I think is speculative rather than concrete.

http://www.oise.utoronto.ca/atkinson...Bill_143-1.pdf

http://www.durham.ca/departments/soc...14/Jan2014.pdf

[gravy_train]

Thanks, playfelt - i was able to log on to the provincial site and see that the second reading isn't scheduled yet. Here's the link to check in on;

http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bil...etail_the_bill

[gravy_train]

Oh - the first of playfelt's links (produced by the Atkinson Centre for Society and Child Development says,
"Bill 143 passed first reading in the Ontario Legislature on December 3, 2013 and has been circulated for written feedback by February 28, 2014. Committee hearings for 2nd reading have not yet been established."