Just summer care ??

[superfun]

Exactly, that is why I specifically referred to Ontario. Are you telling me that summer camps in Manitoba run at $100 a week for an average of 40 hours a week?

I actually would really like to see some of the parents in this town move to Ontario and try to find daycare. The way some of the people around here complain about the cost of childcare, when it's actually quite affordable, is pretty funny. The average in this area is $18 - $35 per day.

[Secondtimearound]

I actually would really like to see some of the parents in this town move to Ontario and try to find daycare. The way some of the people around here complain about the cost of childcare, when it's actually quite affordable, is pretty funny. The average in this area is $18 - $35 per day.

Me tooo !!!! And I would love to charge the going rate in Ontario too ! Lol

[Secondtimearound]

I would not accept $20 a day , I just wondered if anyone else had heard of this ! Lol it's like they just made up an amount !! I think older kids would have benefits for sure but I was kind of shocked at the price , $400 a month ?
I'm in Alberta , but I do not think that's the going rate as b/a care is $25 a day !!
Oh well , thankfully my interview went well and I start mid May !!
If I could find someone needing Monday and Tuesday only I would be full !!!

[5 Little Monkeys]

Ya, if $25 is the b/a price than for sure the daily rate needs to be more than that!

Glad the interview went well!

[Secondtimearound]

Thank you !!! I think I felt insecure as the dcf I termed acted like it didn't matter they were leaving ! I have been told my dayhome set up is excellent , I offer interesting crafts and unit studies and really plan nutritious meals and snack !!! I was charging her less due to her circumstances and dealt with her sick kids continually !
And 2 sick days ended it ? Everyone else was so nice and had no issue !! Even told me I was so worth it �� , so I was kind of shocked when the one I "helped out " had a problem !!
But last night went really good and I'm feeling better about it !!!

[superfun]

Yes, our ymca program is 75 - 125 per week for summer camps. My oldest daughter picked the fairy themed camp, which is lucky for me. That one is a short week with the holiday in it, so it was only 75. I think the full weeks are 100 to 125. That is without the extended care though. I think this one is 8-4:30, and if you need earlier, you pay a bit more.

[5 Little Monkeys]

Thank you !!! I think I felt insecure as the dcf I termed acted like it didn't matter they were leaving ! I have been told my dayhome set up is excellent , I offer interesting crafts and unit studies and really plan nutritious meals and snack !!! I was charging her less due to her circumstances and dealt with her sick kids continually !
And 2 sick days ended it ? Everyone else was so nice and had no issue !! Even told me I was so worth it �� , so I was kind of shocked when the one I "helped out " had a problem !!
But last night went really good and I'm feeling better about it !!!

Sounds like you run a great hdc and it's the parents loss! Some people react funny to rejection and try to act like it doesn't bother them when in fact it does.

[madmom]

I do not like to take older kids now, first of all they eat more than I do most of the time and quiet time in the afternoons is really hard for them. I still have my regular daycare all day so I just find it too hard to deal with kids that need to be busy all day with no down time. That's what summer day camps are for.

[bright sparks]

I think cost of living is always relative to wages though right? So if a family were to relocate from Manitoba to Ontario, the childcare costs wouldn't be higher comparatively because their wage would go up so it's not that childcare is more expensive in Ontario when you look at it like this. It's like the cost of childcare in Toronto being @ $60 a day on average, that's a reflection of the fact that peoples wages are generally higher in the city and property prices are also higher. I live in Niagara Region and while the wages are still not considered low, there is a high ratio of poverty in certain areas so this means that childcare is generally cheaper than say 20 minutes up the road in Burlington. Burlington wages are not higher than here in Niagara, but a lot of wealth is there. It is one of the most expensive cities in the country to live in so it commands a higher daily rate for childcare because people can afford it. In the south of the city near the lake where I used to live and do home daycare, the going rate now is $50-$55 on average. I think where ever you live, the average cost of childcare is relative to the area so that doesn't make Ontario more expensive. What about BC?? It is expensive to live there, but minimum wage is higher. My husbands job pays an additional $20 an hour out their but it's not better paying for him as the cost of living is so much higher than here.

I think just as there are people offering childcare at a much lower rate undercutting a lot of providers with their $25 a day childcare in areas 10-15 more a day generally, there are also people offering cheap summer care. I think maybe as more and more of these cheapy rates are coming up parents are finding the courage or having the nerve depending on how you look at things, to ask for a reduced rate. I am not digging at anyone who charges less than the average, so lets not go there lol A parent of an older child likely thinks an older child is easier because at home they spend their days in their rooms playing video games and watching tv. They don't understand that in offering a childcare service we are providing activities for all ages so they can be entertained, engaged and educated. If anything it is more expensive to accommodate an older child who will need more to keep them happy all day than a 2 year old, and it is much more work accommodating the needs of a providers regular early years group in addition to having a suitable program for the older children. Those with experience and their own children obviously know how to integrate the older kids into their regular activities to reduce the potential extra costs, but over an extended period of time, 9 weeks of summer, the majority of older children are going to be bored and under stimulated being a "daycare helper" for that many hours and that many weeks. It's kind of a disservice to them too. Oh and did I mention the food....anyone with older children of their own know first hand how much food a growing child/adolescent eats. Jeez, with my kids school doing a balanced day my two are famished when they get in.

[Secondtimearound]

I wish !!! Where I am it's 1 1/2 to the "cities"!!! I do my shopping there !! I used to live near Vancouver !!! Culture shock !!!
If I was going to do older kids I would still charge higher than $20 a day as food and entertaining them would def be different !!!
I would only have older kids and do outings for sure !!! I've had 4 school aged children at home !!! Boredom usually equals problems !!!
I would not mix ages and allow them to be jr helpers because they are not mature enough to make the best decisions with their actions around the little ones ! ( I've seen an innocent game of catch go bad fast !) and I wouldn't be comfortable as a mom with my own dd hanging out with older kids I don't know !!!