Rally - bill 10

[cfred]

Who's up for a ROAD TRIP!?

We are going to have a public awareness campaign in front of MPP Liz Sandals office regarding Bill 10 The Childcare Modernization Act.
The campaign is intended to bring awareness about ICP's concerns regarding Bill 10, while Minister Sandals is in her home town riding.
The intention is for concerned providers and parents to come from all over Southern Ontario.

We are running out of time to have our concerns heard. We want this Bill to travel at the committee stage. Min. Sandals wants it wrapped up by Christmas. We have to act now!

[Teagansmom]

I'm trying to organize a rally in Toronto at Queens Park sometime in November, if anyone is interested in attending please let me know if you would prefer a weekday or weekend? I honestly think that a weekday while the legislature is in session will have a huge impact also will send a message to our dc families to take bill 10 seriously.

[cfred]

I would attend that. Depending on the day, I could do it through the week....I could possibly get my sister to cover the daycare. Having just come off vacation on Nov.9th I don't think I could close for another day. Already took a day for press conference with Garfield. On a weekend, definitely! During week....very possibly

[cfred]

I would suggest, Teagansmom, that you shoot to do it the same day as the others for optimal impact. Unfortunately, one date is the 9th and one the 10th. I'm flying home on the 9th and can't do the 10th. My sister, who would cover for me, has a course for her job and will be gone. Clients have been wonderful about this so far, but taking another day on top of a week vacation might cause a couple to blow a gasket.

Have you sent a letter in to me yet? If not, get whatever you've got in to my personal email by tonight so I can print it off and send with the rest. I'm gone as of Sunday morning, so I've got to have it wrapped up by tonight to FedEx tomorrow. c.a.fredenburgh@gmai l.com

There' no space between the i and l in gmail from my email addy....it just keeps showing up like that in here.

[Teagansmom]

Yes I did send you a letter, I've decided to forgo the rally. Seems to be no interest in holding a rally in Toronto for a weekday

[jodaycare]

Here is the info for the upcoming rally

CICPO Guelph Rally at Min. Sandals office
Sunday, November 9 at 11:00am
Community/Constituency Office 173 Woolwich Street Guelph N1H 3V4


We NEED your support for this one! Time is running out! If you care about the future of daycare, PLEASE come and join us. If you are on facebook, go to the Coalition of Independent Childcare Providers page and join the event.

[bright sparks]

Here is the info for the upcoming rally

CICPO Guelph Rally at Min. Sandals office
Sunday, November 9 at 11:00am
Community/Constituency Office 173 Woolwich Street Guelph N1H 3V4


We NEED your support for this one! Time is running out! If you care about the future of daycare, PLEASE come and join us. If you are on facebook, go to the Coalition of Independent Childcare Providers page and join the event.

Just curious why this is being organized for a Sunday again? I'm not on FB so can't start a discussion there. Is Liz going to be at the office on a Sunday? Highly unlikely so seems like it's going to have little to no effect and/or impact on the bill. Yes it is problematic to have this take place on a work day, but a Sunday is just a bad idea in my opinion and from discussing the day of action being held on a Sunday with the people at the Hamilton location, the majority all thought it was a bad idea too. Liz will no doubt be tucked up at home not giving us a second thought. We need to disrupt the industry to have any kind of impact in my opinion and Sunday just seems like the worst day of the week to try and get anything achieved. Do this on a Weekday, when Liz is onsite and resulting in an actual impact on the industry is much more productive. I really do understand that the Sunday is being used due to those providers who are either unable to take midweek time off or don't want to upset their daycare families, but fact is that's the only way to make people pay attention. On a Sunday most people with either not even know about it or laugh at us for taking such a passive approach. Just my 2 cents....I'll take a day off and if it pisses my daycare families off, GOOD! Perhaps then they will start making some noise and take some action.

[Teagansmom]

I totally agree with you bright sparks, I tried to organize a rally in Toronto on a weekday and no one was up for it. Many have not even informed their dc families about the bill because they are afraid they will look for care elsewhere. How are families suppose to be informed if we are not educating them. IMO we just look like providers worried about losing out income rather then the parents worried about losing their spots. For those parents that do know about the bill many don't seem yo really care. I think they need to be inconvienced by all providers taking a day off to protest this will get their attention. I understand how many providers can't afford to take a day off but in the end they need to understand that one missed day of income may ensure 10 years of income by standing up to this bill. I got so frustrated that now I decided to opt out on organizing anything. Also I'm not willing to spend to once again spend my weekend at a rally where many don't want to come out and participate and inform their dc families or for families who don't care

[bright sparks]

I totally agree with you bright sparks, I tried to organize a rally in Toronto on a weekday and no one was up for it. Many have not even informed their dc families about the bill because they are afraid they will look for care elsewhere. How are families suppose to be informed if we are not educating them. IMO we just look like providers worried about losing out income rather then the parents worried about losing their spots. For those parents that do know about the bill many don't seem yo really care. I think they need to be inconvienced by all providers taking a day off to protest this will get their attention. I understand how many providers can't afford to take a day off but in the end they need to understand that one missed day of income may ensure 10 years of income by standing up to this bill. I got so frustrated that now I decided to opt out on organizing anything. Also I'm not willing to spend to once again spend my weekend at a rally where many don't want to come out and participate and inform their dc families or for families who don't care

I hear what you are saying. It's very frustrating. Some days I am able to detach emotion from the situation and try not to get to worked up, but I'm human and it's not always possible lol When I saw something else was being arranged for a Sunday, I immediately got annoyed. The inconveniences to different people is what is going to attract the most attention and have the greatest chance of change. When people start making noise then people will be forced to pay attention more. A weekend rally is making it far to convenient for the industry in which case it will be highly surprising to me if it has much of an impact on the bills amendments which is a dammed bloody shame considering the time and money people have put into organizing this. I can not get over the fact that Toronto didn't hold a day of action and I am even more upset that Niagara Region providers fell silent which really makes me think more and more that there will be a significant increase in underground illegal daycares as a result. It's as if people are trying to go unnoticed now and not draw any attention to themselves so if the bill passes as is, they hope they can just continue as they are doing, likely not adhering to the ratios outlined in the law.

Obviously a weekend rally is better than nothing but for reasons I have stated before, will, I fear, be a lot of hard work for potentially not a lot of results. Protests aren't supposed to please people or be convenient, so to me, this just isn't good enough.

[jodaycare]

I am not organizing it, just passing on the info. I was at the day of action in Oakville and we had almost 60 people! A success as far as I am concerned, Garfield Dunlop came to the rally in Oakville and he will be attending this one too. This rally is more to create public awareness. The organizers are collecting donations to pay for an official media release and are working on getting a major TV network to report on it as well. We want her constituents to know how unmotivated she is to listen to the people who pay her salary.