Judgement in trial

[cfred]

I'm glad to hear that CAS is not just sitting on the sidelines. In my mind, that sounds quite promising. I was under the impression that, in a position of authority and trust working with young children, that the onus is on us to report and that we're liable for failing to do so. I'm utterly shocked.

I can bring it up with the folks at CICPO. I don't think we'd be able to do much in the way of helping with the situation specifically, but will certainly ask. It could perhaps be spun to show the inherent risks of a vastly undervalued profession. I will bring it up. Teagansmom....are you ok with me passing your story on to the group?

[SillyGirl_C]

I am absolutely horrified. Unless they proved malicious intent without doubt they CANNOT penalize you for reporting to CAS. That defeats the whole system. This is not right and not fair. And I am so pissed that you are suffering on this. The trial was bad enough...but to LOSE?
I agree with the above. Get CAS to help in writing. And GO TO THE MEDIA with CAS support. I imagine most parents and caregivers would be as outraged as this forum is.
ps: I think the question about insurance was a good one not designed to hurt you. I think she was most likely concerned about her protection in cases like this.

[Teagansmom]

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[Gloucestermom]

I'm shocked and sorry to hear this! I really hope you can appeal and the CAS will help you

[flowerchild]

I haven't been on these boards long, so I don't know the specifics of your situation, but I do know this:

It's not up to the person who is concerned about abuse/neglect to determine if there is in fact abuse/neglect. That's CAS's job. ANY Children's Aid Society will tell you that. If you have concerns, you call and THEY investigate.

Also, EVERYONE is a mandated reporter. If you see or are aware of abuse/neglect happening, you are obligated to report to CAS. It's not just doctors/teachers/people in power. There may be negative consequences in certain professions for not reporting, but everyone has an obligation to report.

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

Honestly, I think this needs to be picked up by the media. The potential long-range consequences to a having a precedent set that would allow concerned people to be punished for calling about a legitimate concern is so dangerous. Think about all the children who could be harmed or even worse because people are afraid to report.

[Teagansmom]

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[adaycarelady]

This makes me scared to report any suspected abuse for sure! If you can't get a lawyer yet, can you represent yourself? In your appeal, ask the judge to provide you with reference as to where the information is stating you need to be certified to report any suspected abuse. When you sue the family, sue for lost income because of the closure due to emotional distress. It would be very hard to work after you were fined for just doing your job. Maybe you could just take a break for a while and reopen (just would hate to have you loose your house)? Then if you're just done with daycare for sure, make long term career changes. There are wonderful families out there. It's too bad families like this have to ruin it.

[adaycarelady]

They say it's against the law if we don't report suspected abuse, but then get fined if we do! I think you got a case here! I think we all need to call the court house asking how us childcare providers need to be 'certified' in reporting child abuse. Are we suppose to let abuse occur cuz we are only childcare providers? I have a degree in education/teachers certificate and I never have taken a course on child abuse so how are teachers 'certified' too? The media should do a story about how childcare providers are not allowed to report suspect abuse since they run a risk of being sued because they are only childcare providers. I think this is something all Canadian daycare providers need to know so we don't get sued. It doesn't matter whether a person is unlicenced or licenced, we are still providing a service for children. Spread the word on social media news sites too. Start a facebook page! I'm really mad about this, sorry if I'm rambling.