Thanks, I think the waterproof pant would be a good idea for me, but I don't think it will help him. He almost needs to have the feeling of pee on his legs to get it, but then yesterday he did, but might as well not have. I am watching him like a hawk for any kind of cue but they just aren't there. If he has a water proof pant on, I'll have to check him as often as if he had a diaper on. If he is not telling me at all in any way that he has done something, that is a huge obstacle. Initially conditioning kids like this usually results in them going on demand eventually progressing to expressing their need themselves, but he won't even go when I put him on the potty or toilet so I'm stuck lol


































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