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Euphoric !
 Originally Posted by monkeys
There is a boy doll who pees on the potty. You give him some water from a bottle and then he pees. I don't remember the name of it, but i think we found them at toys r us.
Trying to get a picture of a child peeing is not the best, someone may take it the wrong way. I have encouraged dads to take their sons to the bathroom to watch them pee. The child looks up to dad and want to do what dad does.
Sometimes children with delays will take a lot longer to toilet train, but still the majority will get trained. it feels daunting at times, but then they surprise you and its worth all the extra work.
Just to be clear, I would never try to get a picture of anyone peeing lol hence why it would be difficult to get a picture showing the difference between sitting on the toilet and actually doing something on the toilet. As I said in previous posts too, this kid goes to the bathroom with many adults in his household including his pops and understands how this toileting works. I love the sound of the doll. I'm going to look into that today!
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Euphoric !
 Originally Posted by kindertime
I think, perhaps the best advice for you at this time is to wait for him to be assessed. You will only be with him for another few weeks. It does sound to me like your suspicions are right (or close.) He isn't "feeling" the sensation. Either when peeing or when having to pee. And he also have eating issue still. I would guess they are all linked. The way you descibe him, he actually sounds like a very sweet boy. And if you aren't having any issues with defiance or tantrums, then I am thinking that likely he won't be able to make much progress until the proper interventions are made.
I am not familliar with ROCK, but if Nana is willing to pursue interventions with professionals, then I think that is going to be the best thing for him.
I think this is maybe where you could focus your attention. Perhaps change your language a bit. Don't say "go pee" when he is going into the bathroom, only use that word for the actual action of peeing. Use "Sit on the potty" instead.
I never train boys standing up. Had one once who was already trained when he started with me and I had a yellow ring around the toilet every day. AHHH! But... in this case, might that help? He is surrounded by women, you, Nana, and no dad so maybe if he stood, holding himself, it might trigger something. (Could also be a disaster.)
I wish you the best of luck.
ROCK is Reach out centre for kids, formerly Ontario Early Years Centre.
I am going to try that today...I will ask him to sit on the potty and then once he has say now it's time to go pee in the potty. Maybe breaking it down into separate steps will help.
Nana plans to go to school today and speak to the principal about registering him and mention that he may have some delays which are preventing him from toilet training. She will not go back to diapers, so I am hoping he improves, because there is no way I can base my entire program around a child who gives no cues for his toileting needs in addition to not being able to condition him by putting him on the potty when I want to have him pee because he just wont pee.
Each day is a new day, and maybe today will be the day!
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I know it sounds really weird but can you maybe have the other kids use the potty and take a picture of their pee and poop in the potty he will use? Without the kids seeing, last thing you need is them seeing you take pictures of poop lol. But having pictures of sitting on the potty and then having pictures of something IN the potty. Make a photo board with the sequence. Point to it as he progresses though the steps. It seems odd to us, but to a child with delays being very very clear and concrete is best. So a picture of fake pee and poop in a potty may not be as informative.
It is still a long shot, you've mentioned he watches others and knows what it's all about so it might not be the most useful tool. BUT, there's a chance. The peeing doll would be helpful too. As the doll pees point to the picture chart and verbalize the steps the doll is doing.
Good luck!!
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