Should I get my money back?

[Suzie_Homemaker]

Everyone commenting about contracts is not a lawyer so thanks. I'll keep listening to the advice of my brother who is a lawyer.

Then your brother sucks. My son lawyer and here having lunch. He shaking his head.

You changing story like the wind.

First the issue is not being refund. Then it suddenly awful menu and carer smoking. Bottom line, you had agreement, you broke it.

There no moral obligation in any business. Odd it morals that money come your way but no morals due to carer to honor deal you made.

You went for cheap care, knowing it cheap care. If you want call her babysitter instead of dayhome, that up to you but that not mean she have to refund you because now you wish you had money in your bag.

[33 Daiseys]

Sorry sweetie, EMPATHY doesn't pay the bills.
Why should it matter what she spent the money on? Do you have to explain to your employers where your pay check goes?
Hell, last summer I spent 1000.00 dollars on impulse on outside toys. Or that we will have gone to Florida twice this year.
Do you think the parents cared?
No, they pay me to WATCH the kids, what i do with MY money is my business.

[Dawn2Dusk]

I run a dayhome in the province of Alberta and I'm telling you she has done nothings wrong. Unless she has more than 6 children in her care not including her own children she is running a legal dayhome and is NOT a babysitter. I personally would never take on anyone without a contract but that's her choice I guess.

This completely your fault you did not do your research before hand, request a schedule, meal plan or parent guidebook. I give no refunds for unused days, it isn't her fault you quit your job.she is running a business and you agreed to follow her rules by placing your child in her care.

In Alberta being licensed simply means payments going threw an agency and random checks from the agency. If you go with a licensed dayhome you will be paying about 100 more a month and I promise you will never find respectable care in Alberta for 500 a month full time. Tell her legally she needs to give you a receipt.

Do your research from now on....

[lplplp]

The way YOU describe her, she sounds much more like a daycare provider than an "informal babysitter" in my opinion. I ask clients to provide me with 4 weeks notice in order to terminate care. This leaves me some time to fill the position with a new child so that I don't face any lost wages. If you agreed to place your son there for one month and pulled him out after 2 weeks with no notice, that leaves the provider NO time to try and find a replacement child to take your son's spot so that she isn't losing any income. You are the selfish one for thinking she should return your money. She was still willing to hold up her end of the deal. You didn't hold up your end.

[BlueRose]

At the end of the day your personal problems are non of her business. This lady is running a business (offering a service) NOT a Charity. If you where to call your cable company mid month and cancel you still have to pay for the rest of the month. It doesn't matter why you are canceling. They will not return any money paid, because YOU decided to quiet your job. That is how business works.

It doesn't matter what you want to call this women: a provider or a babysitter either way she is still offering a service aka a business. You are now saying she should have been licensed, will it was YOUR responsibility to find out if she had a license before hiring her, NO MATTER what your situation is. It is NOT a providers problem if you choose to move to a city where you don't know anyone or if you decide to quite your job without having another one lined up. Everyone have problems and issues in there life, so figure out how to deal with yours without screwing over someone else because things didn't go your way.

I am sure you are currently not happy with me, because I am being so direct. Well I have dealt with people who want pitty and think others owe them, all my life and being direct and honest with them is the only way to be.

You broke your contract (verbal) now own up to it and deal with the consequence like a mature adult.

P.S. I have meet women who have up and left their homes with their children, moved away from their family and friends, just like you did. They still where responsible parents and took the time to find the right provider for their child(ren). They didn't take the first person who came along. So your whole I "didn't have the resources to find a good provider, due to my issues" don't fly at less not with me.

You said "I am just really shocked at people's lack of empathy..." We have a lot of empathy as people, but when we are dealing with clients (the parents) we need to be business women. And in business there is NO empathy. A lot of us have learned the hard way (dealing with clients like you) that we have to be like this. This doesn't mean that when we find respectful clients we don't do above and beyond to help them out.

[Ad1986]

I NEVER ONCE SAID I didn't have the resources to find a good provider, due to my issues. What issues?!?!? What the HELL does that even mean????

My son is on a waiting list for an actual daycare! I have called around to numerous dayhomes and they are al full! So given the fact that she was a sister of whatever my finances friend, has a son my sons age and is my sons bus route driver I thought she would be trusting enough to watch my son. She was the one that offered for $500 and yes dayhomes charge $800 or more but she doesn't not have the same licensing permit or accreditation as on so why should she get the same financial benefit as one without having the necessary qualifications? So she's a bus driver and probably collecting ei during the summer, while watching kids for cash out of her home yet claiming she's a business. Sounds pretty professional.

Also, I quit my job because they didn't do tax forms to claim eligible dependants, their accountant did not want to come in and do proper paycheques on payday because she just 'didn't want to' so they told me to just estimate how much I would think I made. Potentially paying back thousands of dollars back at tax time just doesn't sound like something I want to do, you? I didn't quit because I just didn't feel like working anymore!!!!!!!!

[crayolamom]

I NEVER ONCE SAID I didn't have the resources to find a good provider, due to my issues. What issues?!?!? What the HELL does that even mean????

My son is on a waiting list for an actual daycare! I have called around to numerous dayhomes and they are al full! So given the fact that she was a sister of whatever my finances friend, has a son my sons age and is my sons bus route driver I thought she would be trusting enough to watch my son. She was the one that offered for $500 and yes dayhomes charge $800 or more but she doesn't not have the same licensing permit or accreditation as on so why should she get the same financial benefit as one without having the necessary qualifications? So she's a bus driver and probably collecting ei during the summer, while watching kids for cash out of her home yet claiming she's a business. Sounds pretty professional.

Also, I quit my job because they didn't do tax forms to claim eligible dependants, their accountant did not want to come in and do proper paycheques on payday because she just 'didn't want to' so they told me to just estimate how much I would think I made. Potentially paying back thousands of dollars back at tax time just doesn't sound like something I want to do, you? I didn't quit because I just didn't feel like working anymore!!!!!!!!

You clearly didn't have the right resources considering you don't even make any sense. Just because some doesn't have a licensing permit (which doesn't even exist for home daycares) or accreditation (what the hell you even mean by that is beyond me) she run a home daycare and the going rate is $700-1300 for a HOME daycare. Providers have to pay for food, craft supplies, outings etc. something you didn't have enough resources to even figure. But then again it's common sense which is something you clearly lack of. If it's not professional why did you go there?

[crayolamom]

I NEVER ONCE SAID I didn't have the resources to find a good provider, due to my issues. What issues?!?!? What the HELL does that even mean????

My son is on a waiting list for an actual daycare! I have called around to numerous dayhomes and they are al full! So given the fact that she was a sister of whatever my finances friend, has a son my sons age and is my sons bus route driver I thought she would be trusting enough to watch my son. She was the one that offered for $500 and yes dayhomes charge $800 or more but she doesn't not have the same licensing permit or accreditation as on so why should she get the same financial benefit as one without having the necessary qualifications? So she's a bus driver and probably collecting ei during the summer, while watching kids for cash out of her home yet claiming she's a business. Sounds pretty professional.

Also, I quit my job because they didn't do tax forms to claim eligible dependants, their accountant did not want to come in and do proper paycheques on payday because she just 'didn't want to' so they told me to just estimate how much I would think I made. Potentially paying back thousands of dollars back at tax time just doesn't sound like something I want to do, you? I didn't quit because I just didn't feel like working anymore!!!!!!!!

No one gives a shit why you quit your job. The point is you quit your job before finding another forum of income and then since there was nothing left your bright idea is "let's screw the daycare provider over" Can't even afford daycare home good luck in a centre I highly recommend looking for back up but they will be getting rid of you and that's a given judging but your incompetence and attitude.

I am a former elementary teacher and I am not any better or any more qualified than someone who has no forum of education and just simply was a stay at home mom who wanted to do daycare. There's a 25 year old two streets down from me who runs an amazing daycare but doesn't have my qualification but (I will admit this myself) runs a program 100 times more better than mine. Once again lack of resources.

[ahnys]

It seems that your entire argument rests on your belief that she is not a true daycare and is therefore not a business. You state it is like one neighbour helping out another, and that she does not have a limited number of spaces. Unfortunately, reality AND the province of Alberta would disagree with you. She is a daycare if she is providing care for children for more than 10 hours a week. She does NOT need to be licensed, regulated or accredited in ANY way in order to be a LEGAL PRIVATE UNLICENSED daycare. She must comply with the government rule that limits the amount if children she cares for (no more than six). It seems you have done no research before making sweeping assumptions about what she is in fact running.
And the fact that you have received a lack of empathy? You have come on to a child care provider website, and by association insulted and diminished a huge percentage of us who run unlicensed daycares and do not have degrees associated with child care, through pure ignorance on your part.

[Ad1986]

It seems that your entire argument rests on your belief that she is not a true daycare and is therefore not a business. You state it is like one neighbour helping out another, and that she does not have a limited number of spaces. Unfortunately, reality AND the province of Alberta would disagree with you. She is a daycare if she is providing care for children for more than 10 hours a week. She does NOT need to be licensed, regulated or accredited in ANY way in order to be a LEGAL PRIVATE UNLICENSED daycare. She must comply with the government rule that limits the amount if children she cares for (no more than six). It seems you have done no research before making sweeping assumptions about what she is in fact running.
And the fact that you have received a lack of empathy? You have come on to a child care provider website, and by association insulted and diminished a huge percentage of us who run unlicensed daycares and do not have degrees associated with child care, through pure ignorance on your part.

Babysitting out of ones house without a business license and not issuing tax receipts yet claiming to be a business is a business to you?