Quote Originally Posted by Lee-Bee View Post
At 4yrs old I would think you need to forgo the pull ups. They are old enough to have bladder control. They just haven't had a reason to control it yet. It's been 4yrs of soiling themselves...they can't be expected to train with a diaper on (a pull up is a diaper).

I don't know what to suggest. It's either on you to train this child (sounds like it could take a long while) or to just not take the initiative and leave it to the parents to do...but then you have to change a 4yrs olds diaper and I really don't know that that would be enjoyable. I think there is a point in age where the toddler cuteness factor fades and the whole diaper change is no longer do-able!! lol

Do you have a shower in your daycare bathroom? Maybe every time the child poops he has to undress himself and get in the shower to clean off? It seems mean i know but it might be enough incentive to have the child CHOSE to not poop himself at age 4. Of course, if there is a medical or developmental reason for the diaper this would just be cruel.

I would also INSIST the child comes in only jogging type pants. NO zippers, no buttons no buckles nothing to prevent a 4 yr old from pulling his own pants up and down. After the toileting is mastered then teach all those skills as well.
he doesn't even have pull ups which I mentioned to mom would be good idea (and make my life easier) just regular diapers as big as they get. the diapers are crying "help" as they are stretched beyond capacity

I have him going when my little ones are going, although he complains I make him try, sit there for 5 mins minimum, just like I have done for my own children and the others ones. I am going to suggest mom putting him in underwear at home and then she can tell me how he did at home, then I can decide if I want to try that. Other babies I have are in regular diapers and pull ups, one little boy today didn't pee in his diaper at all today, all in potty except for during nap so this bg guy should be able to do it as well. Mom and dad during the interview kept saying she hasn't pushed him because he hasn't been completely ready.

I do have a shower yes and that is a good idea however I have to discuss it with mom, I don't want to take any drastic measures (I wouldn't call this drastic but some people might) without her understanding and being on board. I am going to try to sit down with her and get a bit more info and find out exactly where she stands regarding this. She said she has been trying to put him on the toilet more often now since we started...

No there's nothing cute about it this situation. Its not like this is a small dainty 4 yr old either, he is a big boy, this child weighs more than double me, its hard to lift up his butt to put the diaper under as he is helpless and hard to pick him up to sit in the toilet because he doesn't want to sit by himself.

Great idea I will say that tomorrow! i am trying to get him to learn to put on his shoes, unzip his coat and pull his pants down all by himself. The pants he can't pull down have all been jogging pants so far!!!

Thank you for the advice!