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Originally Posted by FlexFunCare

Off topic: For those of you who charge $35 or less for 10-12 hour days: where are you located? Is it less expensive areas to live? You deserve so much more for what you do.

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I charge $25 a day but my hours are 7:30am - 4:30pm. It has happened that I've kept a child past 4:30 but only till 4:45 or so. I'm in MB in a tiny town and here that is around what people charge. It doesn't seem like a lot considering one set of parents I have pays more to have their dog babysat, but it does add up at the end of the month and does help financially.

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Originally Posted by michellesmunchkins

Cocoon, I'm in Oshawa Ontario. There are literally hundreds of other home daycare providers in the nearby area...well I should rephrase that...there are hundreds of stay at home Mom's who only charge $20/day to take in kids. I charge $35 because I used to work as a special education teacher and feel I should make more than someone without any qualifications or the formal education I spent 5 years in college getting. Its very frustrating to have people call and say oh we found someone cheaper...when really they just found someone who wants to stay home with their kids. I'm not knocking stay at home Mom's at all, just frustrating that parents can't see the difference between a 'real' home daycare program and someone just wanting to be home 'babysitting'. I worked hard on my programming but don't feel compensated enough financially for the hours that I work but can't increase my feels because everyone will just to with Jane Doe down the street for $20 :(

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I think outside of Toronto and Ottawa you see prices around $25-$35 as standard and depending on what they offer for your child. Oshawa is a suburb of Toronto - a far one and prices in the suburbs are lower :(
People actually in Toronto or Ottawa seem to make quite a bit more even though we all work just as hard. I am also north of the GTA and when I first started here people were charging between $21-$33. I have just seen more ads raise their price to $35 (halleluliah) these past few months where $35 is now starting to be more standard. I am not sure how even a SAHM makes much on $20 a day. Once you factor in food, your time/hours, and craft supplies and daycare equipment etc there isn't much left to take to the bank at that rate.

Here in Orleans (Ottawa east) rates have been $35 for about 5 years and now many have raised them to closer to $40 with sort of everything in between. A few still advertise for under $35 but what I get from parents is that while they like the price they just don't take anyone charging really low seriously which is good for the rest of us. I have kids at $35, $37 and $38 since I have a policy of your rates don't go up as long as you stay in care. I will be replacing my two oldest that leave for school with new ones at $40.

I'm in Winnipeg and I charge $28 per day for one LO who comes from 6:15am to 4:00 and another LO from 7:30-5:00 so really I'm working an 11 hour day... One is here for 9.75 hours and the other one is for 9 1/2.

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Originally Posted by michellesmunchkins

Cocoon, I'm in Oshawa Ontario. There are literally hundreds of other home daycare providers in the nearby area...well I should rephrase that...there are hundreds of stay at home Mom's who only charge $20/day to take in kids. I charge $35 because I used to work as a special education teacher and feel I should make more than someone without any qualifications or the formal education I spent 5 years in college getting. Its very frustrating to have people call and say oh we found someone cheaper...when really they just found someone who wants to stay home with their kids. I'm not knocking stay at home Mom's at all, just frustrating that parents can't see the difference between a 'real' home daycare program and someone just wanting to be home 'babysitting'. I worked hard on my programming but don't feel compensated enough financially for the hours that I work but can't increase my feels because everyone will just to with Jane Doe down the street for $20 :(

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I can completely understand how you feel but I must say as a SAHM I need to defend us just a little bit. I am trying very very hard to make sure these kids get the as much education as I can give them. I spend hours on the computer on my evenings to learn as much as I can without the same sort of resources I would love to get from college training (can't afford it). I want these kids to have everything I want my own kids to have in respect to learning, healthy food, exercise, and most importantly LOVE! Don't get me wrong, I absolutely think someone with the credentials SHOULD get paid more and the right parents will pay you more, AND most importantly appreciate you more. Those are the type of parents you want to have!:D

I am open 7:30 -5pm. If asked to stay open till say, 6pm, I would charge an extra $8 on top of daily rate. My evening time is very precious to me. 99% chance I would just tell then 'no way' and they can find someone else. But I for some reason, REALLY wanted the family, then I MAY consider taking them till 6pm.
All my kids pay $32 a day regardless of when the come/leave.
I am obviously in Kingston, Ontario.
The norm for my are is $30-$35. There are some SAHMs who will take in a few kids for as low as $20. All the power to them. As Judy put it: "im in it for the money!"

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Originally Posted by olivetree

I can completely understand how you feel but I must say as a SAHM I need to defend us just a little bit. I am trying very very hard to make sure these kids get the as much education as I can give them. I spend hours on the computer on my evenings to learn as much as I can without the same sort of resources I would love to get from college training (can't afford it). I want these kids to have everything I want my own kids to have in respect to learning, healthy food, exercise, and most importantly LOVE! Don't get me wrong, I absolutely think someone with the credentials SHOULD get paid more and the right parents will pay you more, AND most importantly appreciate you more. Those are the type of parents you want to have!:D

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I have no college education, and the only work experience I have is in teh banking industry for 6 years I have LOs of my own. As long as you think you are worth the extra money to spend your time with others kids, then ask for it! I started out alot cheaper just to get the experience and then after 8 months, I bumped my daily rate up $5/day and all my parents signed happily!

I also agree, that maybe ECE providers have formal training, all of us know how to LOVE and CARE for a child. :)

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Originally Posted by KingstonMom

I have no college education, and the only work experience I have is in
I also agree, that maybe ECE providers have formal training, all of us know how to LOVE and CARE for a child. :)

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And those that have ECE have theoretical experience as well as some observation in daycare centres but they still have to spend the hours in the evening and weekends finding the same activities and resources to make learning materials - those aren't given out in class.

I don't agree that everyone knows how to love and care for a child...if that were true there would no child abuse in this world. Everyone knows how to make a child. Most people know how to love their children, but not everyone knows how to properly care for or raise a child. I'm not saying that a college education would change that, but I have met many SAHM's at the park while out with the kids that I cringe thinking they are alone with their child. They sit on their cell phones while their children hang precariously from the slide after falling off...scares me. Not saying all SAHM's are the same...more saying that those who advertise for $20 a day are probably not providing a full educational daycare program but more just babysitting. Didn't mean to offend any SAHM's!!!