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I've seen you say this a few times and it always makes me curious. So if you have a child that is great in all other aspects and has a great family that follow rules but the child is 3/4 years old and outgrows nap, you terminate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crayola kiddies
For me I only take children under 4. At 4 they go to school. So I require nap for ages 0-3. once I had a 3yr that didn't nap anymore but I had him since 11mths so I just didn't want to term. And also he was going to school soon. But it worked well. Because he did quiet time well and wasn't loud. But I think what if I get a 1 yr old and at 3 or almost 4 they didn't nap and they weren't quiet. What would u do? I think I would have to let them go because it doesn't fit my schedule and routine anymore and my other children needing a nap wouldn't be getting it. I'd probably offer they go to a preschool where theyre more flexible on nap and get them ready for school. in preschools here and 4 yr old kindergarten they still do a quiet time
I've only had 4 kids who outgrew naps. One (3years) had parents who ask that she had no quiet time and instead go on her own personal iPad, I said no (but agreed to 30 mins on her mat and than could do quiet activities if she was still awake) and they left soon after. Another had a mom who asked for no naps but she was 2 and always fell asleep on her own, it turned out to just be a phase she went through at bedtime, staying up late. The 3rd one (2years) stayed in his playpen quietly and the other 2 year old was a monster at nap, loud and disruptive and I had to put him in a different room. I never termed him but they did leave as they needed more days than I could offer at the time so it worked out well for me anyways lol
I nap kids from 12:30-3. All kids must nap until they are 4. Once they are 4 I will let the child up after an hour provided I don't need to wake them. If they are still sleeping then I leave them until they wake. They then can come and watch cartoons quietly. All 4 year olds who start kindergarten in sept quit naps for July/August before school starts. Parents know nap time is for coloring/books/tv but only if their child is 4 and starting school.
In your situation the child needs to nap 2 hours. No exceptions. A lot of times bedtime issues have nothing to do with nap.
My official nap time is 12 to 3. sometimes they fall asleep sooner, sometimes they fall asleep later the 12. If they are all up before 3 then nap time is over for that day. I will ONLY wake a child if I have to do a school run or if there is an emergency. I also will not force a child to stay awake.
I go with the flow with the kids, but I will NOT allow a parent to tell me to wake a child or not to nap a child. If a child needs 4 hours of sleep and I can accommodate that child I will let them sleep, but I don't except the other child to be quiet after 3pm just because one child needs to sleep longer. If parents don't like that they can find care elsewhere. The child's needs come before the parents.
Well said bluerose. Now I want to go back to my noon to 3. Lol we sound similar. If someone sleeps after the 230 I let them but if they are awake they come down but have to stay up there for the two hrs. One or one and half hrs is just not long enough nap/quiet time.
So if all the kids are up at 130 or 2 then nap is done? Or does everyone stay on their cot from noon to three?
I do things differently. If a parent of a 2, 3 or 4 year old requests a shorter nap (or no nap), I will accommodate that, at least initially. I know from experience with my own son that it can become a vicious cycle for some children. If they sleep too much during the day, don't fall asleep until too late at night and are up early the next morning, then of course they are going to need a nap by the afternoon. However, for some children, if they don't nap and go to bed at a reasonable time, they wake up happily in the morning and do just fine during the day. So when a parent asks for a shorter nap because the child isn't sleeping well at night, I tell them that I will try it for one week. If during that week, I see that the child can make it through the day without the nap and is doing really well, then that's great. The nap is gone! However, if the child is still going to bed late at night and/or is tired and grumpy during the day, then there must be another reason for the child not sleeping well at night. This all being said, I live in a province that has half-day kindergarten at age 5 (and no pre-K) and also requires school-aged children in our max numbers. It's common to have older children in my care who are not napping, so to add one more in the mix if a parent requests it isn't a big deal. It would likely be different if I only had 1-3 year olds in my care and I was accustomed to having everyone nap for 2-3 hours in the afternoon.
First I have had this situation ... Sort of ... Parents kept asking to shorten the nap but the kid was miserable when I woke her up and she would scream very shrilly and wake some of the others so what I did was put her down last and woke her first and told them she only slept 45 mins and miraculously bedtime was a snap .... My set up is different in such each child has their own room and I have fans stragicly placed .... The op is stating all the children sleep in the same room so waking her early or keeping her up is not an prion cause she is not quiet and the other children deserve their rest period ... The provider also doesn't get a break .... This child is only 2.5 and needs a nap we are not talking about a 3.5-4 yr old ... She's 2! The parent needs to parent ! So to answer your question ... If I was in this situation I would tell the parent that I was not able to shorten the nap any further and if the parent gave me attitude then I would suggest another daycare or perhaps a centre would suit her needs betterQuote:
Originally Posted by 5 Little Monkeys
I have quiet time from 12-3. Not a naptime. I will never make it mandatory for a child to nap, because every child's needs are different and while one kid may not get enough rest with 1 or 2 hours, another child can quite happily manage at 12 months old with this amount of time, regardless of what I think. I have quiet time where everyone is expected to go for a lie down or a sleep. Should the child naturally not fall asleep, then that is their own body controlling their needs but they are still resting and should it be very difficult for them to stay settled, then they could have a book to read or other comfort item as long as they were quiet. I do have the luxury of napping the kids all separately though, so I sleep train my kids from the get go so should one wake noisily very early from nap, they can make a fuss and then self sooth themselves back to sleep and learn that screaming, shouting or misbehaving is not tolerated. If a child sleeps three hours, then it is obviously because their body needs it, and if they didn't need to get that amount of sleep, then they simply wouldn't. As for night time sleep routine, an overtired child can be more hassle at times than one who had a long daytime nap to settle at bedtime and I have heard all to frequently the parents who make these demands and complaints, tell me their kids are up to all kinds of things prior to bedtime so I think many times there are far more causes to poor night time sleeping routines that what goes on at daycare. Sleep training requires work on the caregivers part, parents need to parent....and often this is not happening so the child doesn't sleep because they don't have to.
Are all kids required to stay on their bed for the full three hrs regardless if they sleep or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by bright sparks